A remake or a sequel?

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A remake or a sequel?

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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:25 pm

Okay...
After reading some posts I am really thrown off.

Isn't Rebuild of Evangelion just a re-telling of Evangelion WITH added twists?!
How can it be a sequel given all the crap that happen after EoE?

EDIT 05/27/2010:
I made this thread when I was a noobie. I do not believe Rebuild is a sequel.
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Postby V » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:32 pm

welcome


the idea is that in the twist ending of Rebuild of Eva 1, there's still what appears to be blood splattered on the Moon from the death of the Rei/Lilith hybrid during End of Eva.

On top of that, the oceans are LCL-colored throughout the movie, and further, *depending on the translation* Kaworu at the end seems to say "the Third Child hasn't changed...I look forward to meeting you Shinji...AGAIN"

Long story short, 1 of 2 options:

1-Third Impact reboots the world

2-(What I believe) Original-Shinji and Original-Asuka are left to repopulate the Earth. Civilization restarts after thousands of years. Generations later, Rebuild-Shinji and Rebuild-Asuka are their distant descendants, and basically "time is moving in a circle"

similar to in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series when a cylon character believes that "all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again", basically that time is cyclical and the same story gets retold again and again, using the same "actors" but the roles might get jumbled around (i.e. in this instance he is a prisoner being interrogated, but in the last time cycle both he and his captor were exactly there again, but their roles were reversed and she was the prisoner, the the interrogator)


if this theory holds true, yeah I am expecting them to show Original-Shinji and Original-Asuka "near the sea of LCL", as "flashback" at some point
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:32 pm

A true sequel would start off with Shinji and Asuka by the sea of LCL.
Eventually the humans who had the will to live would come back and SOMEHOW society would start again.


Not necessarily. Some fans like to think it's a sequel because of the possibility time was reset. There are holes in the sequel theory since Maya stated in the first movie that the LCL(?) Sea was from Second Impact.
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Postby Otakon 08 Ikari » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:37 pm

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I do not believe that the children repopulate the world..I mean even for Eva that is a little far and that's saying something.

I do not know just what is going on but..Maybe..Man I don't know they pushed time backwards or something or maybe its one of the many alternate realities or something. All I know is it has more Kaworu which should be good and maybe Eva 04.
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:26 am

V wrote:
2-(What I believe) Original-Shinji and Original-Asuka are left to repopulate the Earth. Civilization restarts after thousands of years. Generations later, Rebuild-Shinji and Rebuild-Asuka are their distant descendants, and basically "time is moving in a circle"


Shinji and Asuka could not have become the new Adam and Eve as many fans believe. Yui had said if a human wanted to come back to life they have to feel it in there heart or something similar.
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Postby Nasmoe » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:51 am

And I'm sure Shinji and Asuka are not the only people who wanted to live.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:10 am

It'll be funny when the rest of the Rebuild films (whenever the hell those would come out) put to rest this whole sequel theory.

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Postby slothen » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:17 am

Gendo'sPapa wrote:It'll be funny when the rest of the Rebuild films (whenever the hell those would come out) put to rest this whole sequel theory.


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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:13 am

I think it's just a re-telling just with plot twists and filled plot holes.
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Postby BrikHaus » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:22 am

Joseph the PRPD wrote:I think it's a re-telling just with plot twists and new plot holes.

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Postby V » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:41 am

Joseph the PRPD wrote:
V wrote:
2-(What I believe) Original-Shinji and Original-Asuka are left to repopulate the Earth. Civilization restarts after thousands of years. Generations later, Rebuild-Shinji and Rebuild-Asuka are their distant descendants, and basically "time is moving in a circle"


Shinji and Asuka could not have become the new Adam and Eve as many fans believe. Yui had said if a human wanted to come back to life they have to feel it in there heart or something similar.



Oh yeah....the expanded version of that is: "....any maybe others like Hikari and Toji came back too".....but the point is that most people might have NOT come back; only those with the "will to live", and (Lord of the Flies) they try to restart civilization
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:00 pm

I highly doubt they alone could just re-populate the entire planet.
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Postby master_lloyd » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:25 pm

I think what V's trying to say is that a lot more people than just those four came back, and then they started to rebuild (omg!) society.

Though I don't subscribe to this.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:28 pm

They started to rebuild the set-up of the original plot, you mean. Although the logistics are pretty mind-numbing (and by "mind-numbing" I mean "would only work in really bad fanfics").

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Postby master_lloyd » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:32 pm

As I previously mentioned, I think the idea's bollocks. So I've no idea of the logistics other than what V said.
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Postby Holy Diver » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:39 pm

"'Eva' is a story that repeats." --Anno

If this phrase is taken literally, then Rebuild could be a repetition. I can imagine that Second Impact somehow created rip in the space-time continuum that spawned an infinite number of alternate universes that feature similar plot points that have been arranged in different order. Thus explaining the differences between the many incarnations of Eva.

But most likely it is a revision of the original series (considering ithe fact that it is called Rebuild instead of Redo).
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:44 pm

Some of you just want to believe in the sequel theory don't ya?
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Postby Reichu » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:52 pm

Do they ever!

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Postby Axell » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:29 pm

some people refuse the possibility outright. I personally think it is a sequel but i dont dismiss the evidence saying it isnt

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Postby Reichu » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:05 pm

Axell wrote:some people refuse the possibility outright.

Who are "some people"? Are "some people" actually "refusing outright", or are their opinions being misrepresented?


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