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Postby GandalfsWhisper [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

or as dictionary.com might say:

Parka(noun):
1.A hooded fur outer garment worn in the Arctic, originally of pullover design but now generally having a front closure.
2.A coat or jacket with a hood and usually a warm lining for cold-weather wear.

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

I intend to delete the Full EVA OP video from my web host server after this weekend (it's taking up almost all my available space).
Anyone still interested in downloading it should PM me for the URL.

Originally posted on: 07-May-2003, 12:48 GMT

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Postby AchtungAffen [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

Don't worry, I can substitute you. I have the file on my own server now and also for the edonkey sharing. Although its not as fast as yours. But hey, the file is well spread through edonkey now, so anyone using that won't have problems finding it.

Originally posted on: 07-May-2003, 17:49 GMT

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

AchtungAffen wrote:Don't worry, I can substitute you. I have the file on my own server now and also for the edonkey sharing. Although its not as fast as yours. But hey, the file is well spread through edonkey now, so anyone using that won't have problems finding it.

Arigato

Originally posted on: 07-May-2003, 17:53 GMT

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Postby Marshall Banana [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

I thought I had given up on Eva, but those images of Adam, Lilith and especially Yui have drawn me back. Looks like I'll be buying the Renewal box afterall.

Rigatoni I mean arigato!

Originally posted on: 07-May-2003, 18:47 GMT

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Postby saiyajin prince [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:51 pm

Welcome Back!!!ImageImage

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Postby Marshall Banana [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Yeah it feels good to be an Eva fan again!

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 03:33 GMT

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Postby mbuhmann [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

AchtungAffen wrote:I send the answer in telegram form for you to understand perhaps

Get it?


Now THAT was funny stuff! Thanks for helping bring the stress level down a notch.

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 03:41 GMT

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

AchtungAffen wrote:Afted a detailed analysis of the digging Adam pic I conclude:
It's Adam. Because it has.... and get ready.... THE LANCE STUCK IN!!!! Oh mine! What a revelation...

I think the implications of this picture deserve more discussion than it's generated so far.

If that is what it is (and why else would Adam have what looks like a fork in his back, if it's not the Lance?), then it's back to the drawing board for a lot of the theories that have been offered about the origin of the Lance. What does it mean that Adam was discovered impaled on the Lance? Who put it there? Lilith?

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 12:31 GMT

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Postby Sharp-kun [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Shin-seiki wrote:If that is what it is (and why else would Adam have what looks like a fork in his back, if it's not the Lance?), then it's back to the drawing board for a lot of the theories that have been offered about the origin of the Lance. What does it mean that Adam was discovered impaled on the Lance? Who put it there? Lilith?

Not really, the Lance is generally beleived to be Adam's S2 (from the statement that it was from Adam, and the S2 evidence). Finding it with Adam would be the logical place.

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 12:34 GMT

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Sharp-kun wrote:Not really, the Lance is generally beleived to be Adam's S2 (from the statement that it was from Adam, and the S2 evidence). Finding it with Adam would be the logical place.

So the natural state of Adam's S2 is that it is already in the shape of the Lance, and is sticking out of his back?

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 12:43 GMT

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Postby Sharp-kun [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Shin-seiki wrote:So the natural state of Adam's S2 is that it is already in the shape of the Lance, and is sticking out of his back?

It could be. Its something I'd always wondered about, whether his S2 had always been like that, or whether it was something SEELE did at the Dead Sea. Theres no real reason why it couldn't be that shape naturaly, not convienent, and slightly odd yes, but not impossible.

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 12:45 GMT

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Sharp-kun wrote:It could be. Its something I'd always wondered about, whether his S2 had always been like that, or whether it was something SEELE did at the Dead Sea. Theres no real reason why it couldn't be that shape naturaly, not convienent, and slightly odd yes, but not impossible.

Try this on for size: There was a conflict between Lilith and Adam over whose offspring would inherit the earth. Lilith used the Lance on Adam to neutralize and immobilize him, to afford her offspring, the Lilim, the opportunity to evolve and dominate the earth.
Just theorizing...

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 13:00 GMT

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Postby Sharp-kun [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Shin-seiki wrote:Try this on for size: There was a conflict between Lilith and Adam over whose offspring would inherit the earth. Lilith used the Lance on Adam to neutralize and immobilize him, to afford her offspring, the Lilim, the opportunity to evolve and dominate the earth.
Just theorizing...

I've considered similar things, but due to the fact that theres no information on the history of Adam and Lilith, its hard.

Also, how would the Lance imobilise him? Its his S2, taking it out would imobilise him.

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 13:04 GMT

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Sharp-kun wrote:I've considered similar things, but due to the fact that theres no information on the history of Adam and Lilith, its hard.

Also, how would the Lance imobilise him? Its his S2, taking it out would imobilise him.

I realize that Lance=Adam's S2 is a very well established and accepted theory, but it's still a theory and not strictly canon. Is it at least possible that the Lance was a separate artifact that arrived on earth at the same time as Adam/Lilith?

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 13:23 GMT

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Postby Sharp-kun [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Shin-seiki wrote:I realize that Lance=Adam's S2 is a very well established and accepted theory, but it's still a theory and not strictly canon. Is it at least possible that the Lance was a separate artifact that arrived on earth at the same time as Adam/Lilith?

The S2 part is theory, the lance coming from Adam isn't.

Ep 21'/ Death Filmbook

[b](SCENE: UN Underground Base - Antarctica)
"The Super Solenoid theory proposed by Professor Katsuragi?"
"It's just too far-fetched!"
"It's still just a theory..."
"Still, the S2 theory 'is' the only way to explain the source of that
giant's power."
"And it's already been proven - even if it was by accident."
"The fact that it exists means that it must be accepted."
"I'll accept it when and only when all the data has been verified."
"What about the Lance of Longinus?"
"It's still where it was brought ashore after arriving from the Dead Sea
last week."
"Isn't some processing necessary before taking the Lance underground?
Will it be okay?"
"The physical contact experiment *with the provider*[/u] is scheduled for
the 13th of next month. There's plenty of time for any adjustment."
"Today's experiment is the Field ego boundary signal, isn't it?"
"That's right."


Bochan's post to the ML can be found here Image

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 13:28 GMT

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Postby Shin-seiki [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Sharp-kun wrote:The S2 part is theory, the lance coming from Adam isn't.



Bochan's post to the ML can be found here Image

I'm no expert on Japanese, but I can't help but wonder about the precise connotation of the word 'provider' or 'donor' in this context. Does this mean anything more than (as is apparent from the picture) that they found the Lance embedded in Adam and extracted it from him? (Sort of like the difference between surgery to remove a kidney and surgery to remove a bullet.)

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 13:50 GMT

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Postby Sharp-kun [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Shin-seiki wrote:I'm no expert on Japanese, but I can't help but wonder about the precise connotation of the word 'provider' or 'donor' in this context. Does this mean anything more than (as is apparent from the picture) that they found the Lance embedded in Adam and extracted it from him? (Sort of like the difference between surgery to remove a kidney and surgery to remove a bullet.)

Bochan seems to think it is meant in the sense that it was from Adam. Bochan is a proffesional translator, so I trust this. The lance being from Adam also explains a lot of other stuff, such as complementation with Lilith etc

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 13:53 GMT

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Postby AchtungAffen [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

But, are you saying that Adam without the lance doesn't have an S^2 organ?

Originally posted on: 08-May-2003, 21:31 GMT

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Postby Sharp-kun [ANF] » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

AchtungAffen wrote:But, are you saying that Adam without the lance doesn't have an S^2 organ?

Pretty much.

It brings up the question though, would the Adam embryo grow a new S2?

Originally posted on: 09-May-2003, 10:27 GMT


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