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Postby SEELE 08 » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:37 pm

I'm hoping Keel decides to go all robocop and kick some ass. A fangirl can always dream... :oops:
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Postby BobBQ » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:55 am

The Eva Monkey wrote:After that is the moment we've all been waiting for. What will Sadamoto do? He won't do EoTV, but EoE doesn't really seem like his style either? Will we get something completely new and different? Only time will tell, but I will tell you one thing, I am very excited to see the next few stages of the manga.

As am I.

I rather suspect that Kaworu won't die so quickly in the manga, or there will be a major twist before he does. His relationship with Shinji is very different in Sadamoto's version, and his death at this point wouldn't damage Shinji nearly as much as it did in episode 24.

I also suspect that Rei will play a bigger part in Sadamoto's version of the End of Everything, and may well finally get her wish to "be one with Ikari-kun".

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Postby MrPhil » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:52 am

Will Vol. 10 be the last in the Manga series or will it still be the planned 12 volumes? I hope Sadamoto finishes the series before the end of the decade.

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Postby AuthenticM » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:37 pm

MrPhil wrote:Will Vol. 10 be the last in the Manga series or will it still be the planned 12 volumes? I hope Sadamoto finishes the series before the end of the decade.

It's still planned for 12 volumes. It's better this way, he'll have way more time to get things all together than if he'd have to cram it all into one last 10th volume.
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Postby TriLink » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:01 pm

AuthenticM wrote:It's still planned for 12 volumes. It's better this way, he'll have way more time to get things all together than if he'd have to cram it all into one last 10th volume.

Hmm, 12 volumes you say. Let's see, at Sadamoto's current pace that means that vol 12 will be released around 2012? Don't get me wrong, I love the man and I can't wait to read vol 10, it's just that all this waiting is getting on my nerv's (no pun intended)

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:05 pm

TriLink12 wrote:Let's see, at Sadamoto's current pace that means that vol 12 will be released around 2012?

Actually, given that the volumes average 7 stages, that leaves 12 more stages to go. Sadamoto produces about 1 stage every 3 months. Knowing that, a reasonable estimate is 3 years from now, provided he doesn't change his pace or decide to take another year long hiatus like he has at several points in the past. 2009 is a good bet.

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Postby AchtungAffen » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:44 pm

Habemus Stage 73.

There seems to be some added stuff about Kaworu's description of Lilith and his final words with Shinji.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:56 pm

In bb's upcoming translation of 73, Adam will be demoted from "mother" to "progenitor". I shall weep openly.
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Postby the_seventh_child » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:59 am

Reichu wrote:In bb's upcoming translation of 73, Adam will be demoted from "mother" to "progenitor". I shall weep openly.

When will we get stage 73?
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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:38 am

Today. (And nevermind -- Kaworu doesn't have that line in the manga anyway.)

*****

And here it is.

"M"
========================================
Stage 73: The boundary line that has been arrived at*
(*i.e. Reached at last after a long and tortuous journey)

Cover: Close-up of Kaworu in front of the Mask of Seele on the Giant
in Terminal Dogma

Lead-in text: Kaworu and Shinji ultimately face off

Scene: Eva-01’s prog knife stopped just in front of Kaworu by an
A.T.Field
Shinji: An A.T.Field!?
Kaworu: Why are you so surprised? As if you did not have one, too.
Shinji: (shocked)
Kaworu: A sacred province inviolate to anyone - the light of the
soul. You should also be aware - that the A.T.Field is the barrier of
the heart that everyone has.
Shinji: I don’t understand those things! The only things with
A.T.Fields are the Evas and Angels!
(Eva-02 lunges with its prog knife and plunges it into Eva-01’s left
chest. Shinji grimaces in pain as the blade drives deeper.)
Shinji: Uuaa... ku...
Shinji (thinking): Asuka... sorry
Shinji: Uuoooooo!!
(Shinji clutches the induction levers and Eva-01 plunges its prog
knife into the base of Eva-02’s jaw. The two Eva units struggle
against each other with sparks and blood flying from the prog knife
wounds.)

Scene: Command Center
Announcement: Both Eva units have reached the lowermost level! 20
seconds until the target reaches Terminal Dogma!!
Misato (softly): ... Hyuga
Makoto: Yes.
Misato: If Eva-01’s signal disappears, and another change occurs...
Makoto: I understand. Then we self-destruct the entire place, right?
Because it’s better than letting Third Impact occur.
Misato: I’m sorry.
Makoto: It’s all right - as long as I can die with you.
(Suddenly a shockwave courses through the Command Center.)
Misato: What’s happening!
Makoto: An A.T.Field - the strongest ever detected!
Shigeru: Light waves, electromagnetic waves, particles - everything
has been shut out! We can’t monitor anything!
Monitor display:
TERMINAL DOGMA
A.T.FIELD
GENERATION [DETECTED]
ENERGY LEVEL HIGHEST EVER RECORDED
MAGI - 1•2•3
Maya: Target and Eva-01 both lost! Contact with the pilot also
impossible!
Misato: A complete barrier...

Scene: The two Eva units, still struggling, descend through a hole in
the center of a domed ceiling and fall with a splash into a lake with
scattered white stalagmite-like shapes. Shinji is knocked back by the
shock, but looks up to see Kaworu floating onward.
Shinji: Ku... Nagisa! Wait!
(Kaworu does not look back, and Eva-01 reaches out for him, but is
stopped abruptly.)
Shinji: U...
(Shinji looks back to see Eva-02 grabbing Eva-01’s ankle. Eva-01
struggles to free itself.)
Shinji: Let go! Damn it!
(Kaworu floats toward a door and glances at the lock, which changes
with a click from LOCKED to OPEN.)
Shigeru: Final safety system released!
Makoto: Heaven’s Door is opening!!
(The door opens to reveal the giant on the cross, and Kaworu floats
to a position in front of it. The door closes behind him)

Scene: Command Center - All personnel stare at the screen
Misato: So an Angel finally reached it...
(Gendo and Fuyutsuki watch silently)
Misato: Please, Shinji... We’re counting on you...

Scene: Kaworu floating in front of the giant on the cross
Kaworu: As I thought, this is not Adam. The Black Moon... Lilith... I
see - You have been here from the beginning. This Geofront was
created when you first arrived. And you have been waiting all this
time - for a successor to come this far.
(Kaworu hears a creaking noise behind him, and turns to see Eva-01
smash through the door with the incapacitated Eva-02, which falls
into the chamber with a splash. Eva-01 stands in the doorway, and
Shinji gasps for breath in the entry plug and faces off against Kaworu.)
Shinji: If you go even the slightest bit further... I won’t hold back.
Kaworu: I wonder... Even if I am an Angel, can you lay hands upon
something with the shape of a person? But, if I make contact with
this, it seems that Third Impact will occur. All forms of life,
including the one that made contact, will perish in an instant. Of
course that includes you Lilim as well. Either way you have a tough
choice.
Shinji: If you stop now we don’t have to fight. Turn back!
(Eva-01 reaches up for Eva-02’s prog knife still stuck in its chest.)
Kaworu: Don’t have to fight... huh, as self-serving as usual.
(pauses) Let me tell you something else interesting. Even if Third
Impact occurs, people will not simply perish. They will be reborn in
a new form - merged into one as a single life form. (Background image
of the Earth) And that will bring about exactly the kind of world you
have been wishing for. (Background image of a large tree) A.T.Fields
also will be unnecessary. Wars and conflicts, the suffering and
sadness of losing people - you will be freed from all of these. And
despite that, you say you will stop me?
Shinji: ... I won’t let Third Impact happen!
(Eva-01 pulls out and brandishes Eva-02’s prog knife.)
Kaworu: That knife is not a threat to me at all. You understand that
from earlier, don’t you? This is my destiny - for I am a fated/
planned child that was born for this time from the very beginning.
(starts to turn slightly)
Shinji: Stop!!
(Eva-01 reaches out to grab Kaworu, but its hand does not close, and
Kaworu floats beside the open palm.)
Kaworu: However, I also have a will. And I can choose by my own will
to defy destiny.
Shinji: .....
Kaworu: Don’t get me wrong - I'm not saying this for your sake. If I
turn around now, the old men won’t let it go unchallenged.
Shinji: Old men?
Kaworu: They’ll probably eliminate me at once. After all, they have
virtually held my life in their hands from the outset. Well, whether
I cause Third Impact or not - either way I will cease to exist as an
individual. Truth be told, I really don’t care either way about
Third Impact. (Glances off to the side) The only absolute liberty
left to me... is that I can choose the form of my death by my own
will. (Looks back at Shinji/Eva-01) So I want you to kill me - by
your own hand.
(Shinji is shocked, but his hand remains on the induction lever.)
Shinji: Want are you saying...?
Kaworu: Didn’t you hear me? I said I want you to kill me. If you
have even the slightest feelings for me, then kill me with that hand
- like that cat back then.
(Shinji stares with widex eyes, but his hand remains on the induction
lever.)
Shinji (flustered): That’s... not fair (a dirty trick)... If I’m
told like that, there’s no way I can do it, is there!?
Kaworu (serious): It’s my final request. And if you like me at all,
you will grant it.
(Shinji = shocked/troubled)

Ending text: How will Shinji respond to Kaworu’s words...!?

- End Stage 73--
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:55 pm

Aww. You beat me to it.

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Postby Hunter21 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:52 pm

I can't say that translation makes me any more interested in the manga. Then again I have been losing interest in the story for a while now.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:10 pm

Say, why weren't 71 and 72 posted, anyway?
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Postby SEELE 08 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:19 pm

Reichu wrote:Say, why weren't 71 and 72 posted, anyway?


Because the board was six feet under when they came out.
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Postby Timesplitter 01 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:26 pm

SEELE 08 wrote:
Reichu wrote:Say, why weren't 71 and 72 posted, anyway?


Because the board was six feet under when they came out.


So true. Good to see it anyways.
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Postby the_seventh_child » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:27 am

That was nice! I guess 74 will be the chapter when Kaworu-kun dies.. :cry:
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Postby Reichu » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:43 am

Hunter21 wrote:I can't say that translation makes me any more interested in the manga. Then again I have been losing interest in the story for a while now.

Some of the differences pique my curiosity -- it's too bad we can't know if Sadamoto is providing more information about things in the anime or deviating from them. I notice that the mysterioso element of fusing with EVA-02 and 'continuing to live with her' (with the "her" being Kaworu's, and not mine this time) is eliminated.

Strangely, we never hear anything about one of those other options -- Kaworu hunting down that Ikari guy and reclaiming "the other half".
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Postby Hunter21 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:42 pm

the_seventh_child wrote:That was nice! I guess 74 will be the chapter when Kaworu-kun dies.. :cry:
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Reichu wrote:Strangely, we never hear anything about one of those other options -- Kaworu hunting down that Ikari guy and reclaiming "the other half".
Most likely it is because that would make sense. And heaven forbid anything in Eva make sense.
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Postby Rawinder » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:36 pm

Reichu wrote:In bb's upcoming translation of 73, Adam will be demoted from "mother" to "progenitor". I shall weep openly.


Why? I was under the impression that, given the context, "progenitor" was a more accurate translation.

As for the stage... it's interesting. I can't say I like Kaworu, but I like the new spin that Sadamoto is putting on the situation (if that makes any sense). Some of it's really intriguing, like Kaworu saying that Lilith has been waiting for a successor.

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Postby Reichu » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:59 pm

Rawinder wrote:Why?

Given the Reichu, you know exactly why.

I was under the impression that, given the context, "progenitor" was a more accurate translation.

Well, that's what bb says, anyway. I'll keep his tips in mind, but I'll file this one under "Ambiguity City".

I can't say I like Kaworu

I want to punch EMK.

I would give the other Kaworu a great, big hug.

Some of it's really intriguing, like Kaworu saying that Lilith has been waiting for a successor.

I'm suddenly reminded of my "EVA-01 = Lilith's (+ Adam's, meybe) heiress" rants, for no real reason. I would belly-larf in glorious irony if Sadamoto ended up putting some of that stuff into print, as it were.
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