A Different Take on LILIN+?

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A Different Take on LILIN+?

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Postby NAveryW » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:18 pm

A few days ago, I had a thought that I've been meaning to put out. When seeing the phrase "LILIN+?" flash on the screen, the first instinct is to think of it as "THIS MIGHT BE A LILIN+" or something to that effect. In fact, "LILIN+" has become one of the ranks on this forum. However, it is also possible that the phrase means "LILIN AND ALSO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS". In other words, a Lilin and also an unrevealed entity in one.
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Postby EvaCub » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:22 pm

that makes sense
possible third entity thrown in with Adam and Lilith?
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Postby NAveryW » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:56 pm

The only other Biblical progenitor is Sammael, as Reichu pointed out during a previous discussion. Unlike Adam and Ev(e/a), however, Sammael was the only one of the three to truly be an Angel in Biblical canon.
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Postby The Imperialist » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:37 pm

May I know where this comes from? And preffeably with media?
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Postby NAveryW » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:15 pm

Where what comes from? O_o
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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:47 pm

http://evageeks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=145565#145565

This? If I'm reading this right, this is from a fanfic, and that means...NAveryW!
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Postby NAveryW » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:49 pm

Eh? No, I didn't write that as part of a fanfic. That's from a comic called I Feel Sick by Jhonen Vaskezupeldoqueezy. Neon Phthora EVANGALIEN is the only fanfiction I've written since I was ten.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:51 pm

Is the fanfic your source for this? I see a lot of bizarro stuff on the internet that is not verifiable. Where did you get that from, or which discussion did Reichu mention it? The only recent one I found was that one.
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Postby NAveryW » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:08 pm

My source for what, exactly? You mean the phrase "LILIN+?"? If so, it's from the preview for Rebuild 2.0.
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Postby Sachi » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:33 am

NAveryW wrote:The only other Biblical progenitor is Sammael, as Reichu pointed out during a previous discussion. Unlike Adam and Ev(e/a), however, Sammael was the only one of the three to truly be an Angel in Biblical canon.

Isn't Sammael Satan? That would be a cool twist in RoE!

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Postby Reichu » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:05 am

NAveryW wrote:The only other Biblical progenitor is Sammael, as Reichu pointed out during a previous discussion.

Well, he WOULD be a Biblical progenitor if him fathering Cain was part of Biblical canon, which it is not.
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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:05 pm

Lilith isn't part of the Biblical canon either, except one fleeting reference that is now often translated as "owl" or "demon" or something.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:05 pm

Lilith was supposed to be the wife of Cain, she is canon. Jeez!
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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:21 pm

Her name only appears once in the current Bible, and in a place unrelated to Cain. All of the other parts with her in it have been relegated to apocrypha. This was, in a large part, due to misogynism during decisions of what was canon, and Lilith was a female with a large amount of power.
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Postby Reichu » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:43 pm

NAveryW wrote:This was, in a large part, due to misogynism during decisions of what was canon, and Lilith was a female with a large amount of power.

I'm not sure if this is really true, or a myth propagated by e.g. feminists who embrace Lilith as an archetype of sorts ("a woman who wouldn't settle for the bottom"). Lilith in her role as Adam's first wife, as least, is first known from The Alphabet of Ben-Sira, which is considered a "satirical" work.

Anyway, if you want to know more, here's a really good overview. Follow the link at the bottom for more Lilith stuff.
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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:37 pm

Reichu wrote:I'm not sure if this is really true, or a myth propagated by e.g. feminists who embrace Lilith as an archetype of sorts ("a woman who wouldn't settle for the bottom").
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Postby exelm » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:14 pm

First of all "Hi to everyone, this is my first post!" :)

When seeing the phrase "LILIN+?" flash on the screen the first instinct is to think of it as


...a different way to say "more Lilin to make an appearance in 2.0?".
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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:42 am

Good point. :lol:

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Re: A Different Take on LILIN+?

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Postby Reichu » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:52 pm

NAveryW wrote:In fact, "LILIN+" has become one of the ranks on this forum.

It popped into my head. Should I get rid of it?
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