Seele08 wrote:I just don't like Yui and never will, trying to attain godhood in my mind is the ultimate immorality (as I beleive that weilding absolute power over even one person without any form of consent is immoral, and determing the fate of entire race by your lonesome makes it that much worse, at least SEELE wasn't one person whistling in the dark), besides if she's going to start life somewhere else she ain't gonna be lonely. SEELE just wanted to end pain/suffering/loneliness and thanks to Gendo's brilliant HCP they latched onto a very baaaaad idea. Originaly they just wanted to stop the angels, and evolve humanity Yui said it herself.
Seele08 wrote:SEELE just appeals to me for two reason, first they have a cyborg, and cyborgs are teh 1337, second of all its based partly on my own personal philosophy on religion and my belief that the idea of the power of god is immoral. That is probably born out of years spent in my parent's fundamental baptist church and all the crap I experienced there (lets just say an logical aspie in a church full of religious nuts doesn't mix well), and my love of the writings of Locke.
By contrast, I come to all these issues from techno-apocalyptic SF, where the issue is not "should anyone be trusted with such power", but "how will we deal with entities like that when we discover we have built them" - when Applied Theology will be a short-lived engineering discipline.
Let us also not forget who it actually was who decided "So, everybody just die." and then later backtracked on that. The SysOp level power was shared around to the point where a lot of personas had some responsibility.
Yui was faced with a situation where the only way that something of humanity might be salvaged was to undergo a martyrdom of her own, so she could at least rescue some seed of humanity.
SEELE weren't one person - but they were a secret cabal plotting to impose their will on everyone else (by hitting the reset button on Life on Earth). Their peace would be the peace of the grave, a final solution an order of magnitude larger than guys from Keel's neck of the woods had managed 70 years previously. Not even a "Would the last person on Earth please turn off all the lights?" like these guys suggest.
Originally posted on: 24-Jan-2006, 21:36 GMT