OMF wrote:Hello all. Just thought I throw my own crazy, unsubstansiated, outlook into the debate.
What did he say? What exactly did the old bastard say during that silence? It's driving everybody mad of course, and don't look at me! I haven't the foggiest notion!
I've racked my brains, watched the episodes over and over, read posts, conjectured theories, compared them, tried to justify them, wondered, pondered, thought and thought and thought. "I truely...", "In reality...", "The truth is...". What!!? What you pompous bastard!?! "...I loved you","...i respected you" , "...you are your mother's daughter", "...I reprogrammed Casper", "...Ibuki's your substitute", "...I was afraid of you." , "...I'm sorry it came to this", "...your the child I was caring for" , "... I never loved you" , "...Your just like me", "...I understand you", "...Something about your mother", "..I am your father" , "... 42"!!!! No don't edit it out!! NOOOOOO!!!
Then I watched it twenty times over....
....And I found an answer.
Now it's not for everyone!, but it works for me. Many, many people will disagree. Worse, some may agree! Why anyone would agree is beyond me, but I'll post anyway.
So what did he say? Like I said, I haven't a clue. but I will say this.
It doesn't really matter what he said in that silence...
(that's your big revelation? no!)
....What really matters is what he said before that.
I'll tell you what he didn't say. He did not say:
What he actually says is:
It's right there, and it's SO easy to miss. I caught it just by fluke and had to quadruple check it to make sure I heard it right. In fact, I'm still not sure he actually says it. It's unbelievable! Incredible! He actually says it! Bowl me over and stone the crows! All I could say when I heard it was.... Lies....
Somebody please check this by the way. Does he really say it, or have I gone mad?
Needless to say, I'm talking about the original Japaneese language track here. This tiny detail is shamelessly left out of both the dub AND sub. Sly bastards...
If I'm in anyway right, I can smell a rather righteous dub vs sub vs go learn japaneese argument on the horizon. I just like to say, I'm not a troll... Gendou made me do it!!
We already said that. And yes, he does say kun. That doesn't give any true clue...because he could have either been mocking her or was serious with her when speaking.
Originally posted on: 01-Apr-2005, 08:27 GMT