[Anime] Gundam shit [SPLIT]

[Zeon]

Personally, I'm surprised I actually understood what you wrote due to my lack of having watched lots of Mecha shows! ; (Only Voltron, Robotech and Eva in terms of that genre. Heh...)

Ooh...

Off-topic, but it sounds like someone here needs to watch First Gundam...

[chee]

ZETA.

[Apathetic Piggy]

Personally, I'm surprised I actually understood what you wrote due to my lack of having watched lots of Mecha shows! ; (Only Voltron, Robotech and Eva in terms of that genre. Heh...)

Ooh...

Off-topic, but it sounds like someone here needs to watch First Gundam...

Agreed. Mobile Suit Gundam is good stuff. Char's Counterattack was also a great movie with the greatest instance of "fan service" that exists in my mind: Spoilers for those who have not seen it! Beware!


Quess dies!!



/end spoilers .

I was smiling for the rest of the week.

[chee]

Gundam is awesome. That is all.

Well, old-school Gundam, at least.

[Zeon]

ZETA.

Well, yes, that comes next...

You can't skip First Gundam.

Agreed. Mobile Suit Gundam is good stuff. Char's Counterattack was also a great movie with the greatest instance of "fan service" that exists in my mind: Spoilers for those who have not seen it! Beware!


Quess dies!!



/end spoilers .

I was smiling for the rest of the week.

Yes, CCA is also great, though I didn't care for how twisted Char got. He was my favorite anime character but he turned kind of evil... Still, it's a great movie with some great animation and a fitting conclusion to the Amuro-Char saga.

Little-known fact: Hideaki Anno did some of the mecha designs (the ships) for CCA.

[Apathetic Piggy]

ZETA.

Well, yes, that comes next...

You can't skip First Gundam.

Agreed. Mobile Suit Gundam is good stuff. Char's Counterattack was also a great movie with the greatest instance of "fan service" that exists in my mind: Spoilers for those who have not seen it! Beware!


Quess dies!!



/end spoilers .

I was smiling for the rest of the week.

Yes, CCA is also great, though I didn't care for how twisted Char got. He was my favorite anime character but he turned kind of evil... Still, it's a great movie with some great animation and a fitting conclusion to the Amuro-Char saga.

Little-known fact: Hideaki Anno did some of the mecha designs (the ships) for CCA.

Heh, his thing for younger women.

Also, didn't know that about Anno. That being said, whoever was responsible for the aforementioned scene (Quess)... I will have their babies.

[Incisivis]

Gundam is awesome. That is all.

Well, old-school Gundam, at least.

No! Just more Gundam, Gundam, Gundam.

I love UC *and* AU Gundam, dammit....not every series I've seen, but most of them.

[chee]

Eeeeh...most of the AU Gundam i've seen hasn't impressed me.

However, I like the initial concept behind G Gundam; it's a fresh, interesting approach (It's basically super robots filtered through a real-robots mindset- or perhaps it's the other way around?), and the cockpit designs actually make sense. However, what little I actually saw of the execution did not leave me with a desire to see any more. Plus, although I know that G isn't entirely meant to be taken seriously, but COME ON- some of the mobile suit designs are butt-ugly to the extreme, just as ugly as SEED's, but in a different way.

Wing just gets more and more stupid the older I get- which is a shame, because I normally like those sorts of twisty, philosophical storylines. (Hence my fondness for NGE and Mamoru Oshii movies*.)

X and Turn-A I am witholding judgement on (because I haven't seen them), but I hear good things about them

SEED its sequel, on the other hand, I have no desire to watch. I've heard enough about it to decide that they're poorly written, and seen enough clips and images to decide that its visually butt-ugly. It's great parody material, though, and has SOME good ideas.

And who is Quess but a charisma-less, amoral Asuka? ...Okay, so maybe i'm grasping straws here, but there ARE similarities.

(Not to mention that I get slight Manga Shinji vibes from Hathaway...and Bright and Gendo are both crappy parents who put their work first.)

*Seriously, Mamoru Oshii is IMHO the greatest anime director alive. He's better than Miyazaki, in my opinion. (Miyazaki's stuff after Princess Mononoke hasn't been as interesting as his earlier work in my opinion. I think he sort hit his peak with that one.)

[Apathetic Piggy]

And who is Quess but a charisma-less, amoral Asuka? ...Okay, so maybe i'm grasping straws here, but there ARE similarities.

Granted, but I found her annoying. "I like Amuro but he doesn't like me so I'll bitch and whine then go with Char. Oh I'm so evil, everyone has to die. Whine, bitch, nag, I'm nine years old and fantastic."

I also am a known hater of children, so that bumped it up. Asuka had her psychological issues. Quess was just Quess. Now, if Asuka wasn't as mentally screwed over, younger, and went to the side of the Angels then she'd be Quess. But yes, Asuka's character had some sort of charisma so I actually liked her.

Quess reminds me why I like unfortunate things to befall children.

[Zeon]

Heh, his thing for younger women.

That's actually not at all what I was talking about but, yeah, that's kind of creepy too.

Eeeeh...most of the AU Gundam i've seen hasn't impressed me.

However, I like the initial concept behind G Gundam; it's a fresh, interesting approach (It's basically super robots filtered through a real-robots mindset- or perhaps it's the other way around?), and the cockpit designs actually make sense. However, what little I actually saw of the execution did not leave me with a desire to see any more. Plus, although I know that G isn't entirely meant to be taken seriously, but COME ON- some of the mobile suit designs are butt-ugly to the extreme, just as ugly as SEED's, but in a different way.

Wing just gets more and more stupid the older I get- which is a shame, because I normally like those sorts of twisty, philosophical storylines. (Hence my fondness for NGE and Mamoru Oshii movies*.)

X and Turn-A I am witholding judgement on (because I haven't seen them), but I hear good things about them

SEED its sequel, on the other hand, I have no desire to watch. I've heard enough about it to decide that they're poorly written, and seen enough clips and images to decide that its visually butt-ugly. It's great parody material, though, and has SOME good ideas.

AU Gundam series quick opinions:

G Gundam: Incredibly silly; mindless; no redeeming qualities outside of humor
Gundam Wing: Ripoff of UC with 95% bishonen cast, but not entirely horrible
Gundam X: Never seen (looks weak, got cancelled)
Turn A Gundam: Never seen (looks good, I like Tomino)
Gundam Seed: Ripoff of UC with a few redeeming qualities
Gundam Seed Destiny: Ripoff of UC with no redeeming qualities

I prefer the Universal Century Gundam stories.

[Incisivis]

Now it's what 0083 would call "Threadjack"....

I admit, Seed bored me and I didn't get past the first episode.

I loved G-Gundam because it was such funny crack, and as a Canadian I can't help but love Andrew Graham and the Lumber Gundam, even though they bought into the stereotype that Canada is somehow "primitive". :roll:

Wing was a lot of personal firsts for me, especially my first Gundam series, and that makes it weirdly sacred to me.

Hey, Zeon, what's wrong with a "95% bishounen" cast? To me it's extremely cool that anime characters don't have to be macho men to be great fighters. In fact Quatre struck me as one of the more heroic characters in the series, because he had personal objections to overcome.

When the kids' series Superior Defender Gundam came over here, I admit I LoL'd because it was such bad, bad, crack. I even have the little Zaku II figure from there. I'd like to see the real SD Gundam someday, though,.

Turn-A sounds like an absolutely wonderful series, and I can't wait until it gets an R1 release in some form.

For UC, I only had access to First Gundam via the movies, but I thought those were great and I'd love to see the whole series someday.

I loved War in the Pocket, and 08th MS Team, though the second one I didn't manage to find the last volume for. I found Stardust Destiny to be rather dull.

On Topic: Uh...I like Shinji....

[BrikHaus]

All this Gundam talk must die :twisted:

Or at least be split to a new thread

[Apathetic Piggy]

Sorry for the n00b question- which Anime does Quess come from? I haven't heard the name.

She's from Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack.

Do I want unfortunate things to befall children? Maybe. I've had unfortunate things happen to me as a child that I've never been able to get over. I've lived most of my life in a state of worrying about others and getting agitated all the time...and that has had horrible enough effects. Revenge on my 9-11 year old self seems logical in a twisted sort of way...I hate kids because I hate how I was as a kid. To me, Asuka's problems are nothing wierd.

I was a bit of hellspawn myself, actually. As for the age, I can't say. Every year I start to dislike even older children as well as younger. Perhaps I have no soul.


Back on topic, it was blood. For him, that was the affirmation that Misato really did just die (I'm sure the subsequent explosion sealed the deal, if he heard it). Poor Shinji; every woman he kisses dies.

[Indigo Arcangel]

every woman he kisses dies.

Man, that would be the worst superpower to have...

[shinesman_cobalt]

every woman he kisses dies.

Man, that would be the worst superpower to have...

Not nesicarrily. Depends on who your supervillians are. XD

[Zeon]

I don't mean to derail the thread or anything, but I can't not reply to what was posted to me... you can split it if you want >_>

Now it's what 0083 would call "Threadjack"....

I admit, Seed bored me and I didn't get past the first episode.

I loved G-Gundam because it was such funny crack, and as a Canadian I can't help but love Andrew Graham and the Lumber Gundam, even though they bought into the stereotype that Canada is somehow "primitive". :roll:

Lots of stereotypes in G Gundam. Tequila Gundam, anyone?

Wing was a lot of personal firsts for me, especially my first Gundam series, and that makes it weirdly sacred to me.

Hey, Zeon, what's wrong with a "95% bishounen" cast? To me it's extremely cool that anime characters don't have to be macho men to be great fighters. In fact Quatre struck me as one of the more heroic characters in the series, because he had personal objections to overcome.

Everything is wrong with it. The whole cast is made up of emotionally detached scene kids and they're unbearable. It's not at all about being macho, it's about being interesting. Treize was pretty awesome, though. Zechs was okay (but still a Char clone).

For UC, I only had access to First Gundam via the movies, but I thought those were great and I'd love to see the whole series someday.

The movies are even better presented than the series so you're not really missing much (just filler). Instead of watching First Gundam again, go for Zeta!

I loved War in the Pocket, and 08th MS Team, though the second one I didn't manage to find the last volume for. I found Stardust Destiny to be rather dull.

I loved all three of the UC OVAs. 0083 had shortcomings but some of the greatest mechanical designs in the whole franchise, plus a whole bunch of cool Zeta cameos.

[Ornette]

seeing as how this kept on going even after a TOPIC BITCHES warning, I may as well split. So carry on here.

Personally, I enjoyed SDF Macross and Ideon more than MS Gundam.

[Zeon]

seeing as how this kept on going even after a TOPIC BITCHES warning, I may as well split. So carry on here.

Personally, I enjoyed SDF Macross and Ideon more than MS Gundam.

Macross is a good franchise which I would love to see all of (haven't seen Seven or Zero). Macross Plus is one of the greatest anime OVA/movies ever made. It is beautiful. The new Macross sounds neat, I can't wait to see what the animation looks like, but again, I'm kind of behind in the story.

Ideon is a Tomino show so it's at least okay (I'm kidding, it's really good. It's supposedly the biggest inspiration for Evangelion).

Gundam/Zeta Gundam are still my favorite anime though.

[CyborgZeta]

Gundam X: Never seen (looks weak, got cancelled)

Gundam X may have been canceled, but that does not mean it is a bad show. Personally, I think Gundam X is the finest Gundam show I've ever seen; even more so than the original MSG.

[Trigger's Elysium]

JUST WILD BEAT

COMMUNICATION

I think Wing and SEED were the only ones I watched in full. Never even finished Destiny. Sad, I know.