Whoo, Microsoft's Getting a Little Strange...

[NAveryW]

Yes, well. I got Halo 2 for the PC today, told that it would work if I had Vista. Which I do. Turns out my computer's resources are insufficient. And, in fact, they would have been from the start. I can understand making it only run on Vista (how else are they going to get people to "up"grade?), but they should AT LEAST make sure it'll always RUN on Vista.

Also, I thought it was mildly amusing that the original Halo disc said "Do not make illegal copies of this disc". You know, because that's definitely going to stop people who were already going to make illegal copies. But Halo 2's disc says "Do not lend or make illegal copies of this disc. So they won't even let you share the disc with anyone. Jeez, they're a little paranoid, aren't they? At least they'd know your buddy has Vista...

[Kaysow]

Lending, broadcasting, renting reselling, it's pretty much all frowned upon and always has been

[NAveryW]

But surely letting a friend borrow a disc or selling it if you're finished with it haven't always been illegal, right?

...Right?

[Opteron-O3]

But surely letting a friend borrow a disc or selling it if you're finished with it haven't always been illegal, right?

...Right?

As long as you don't register it, you'll be fine.

[drinian]

But surely letting a friend borrow a disc or selling it if you're finished with it haven't always been illegal, right?

...Right?

As long as you don't register it, you'll be fine.

Doctrine of First Sale. Once you've bought it, you can resell it (assuming you don't keep a copy for yourself). MS product activation aside.

And re:Vista, if you haven't seen it yet (just read the Executive Summaries): http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

[Rommel]

Lending, broadcasting, renting reselling, it's pretty much all frowned upon and always has been

Yeah, it's not like I PAID for it with my hard earned money.

[Opteron-O3]

Yup.

[NAveryW]

Truthfully, the only reason I got Vista was because my old laptop went splodey and they stopped selling them with XP before I got a new one. If I had the option of getting an XP-flavored laptop with the same amount of memory and RAM, I would have chosen that.

[Defectron]

There's too many things wrong with vista, once xp becomes obsolete I'll probably completely move over to linux and just ditch microsoft altogether.

[Executor]

There's too many things wrong with vista, once xp becomes obsolete I'll probably completely move over to linux and just ditch microsoft altogether.

Bullshit. I use Vista on my computer, and I have not a problem with it, even in terms of compatability.

[Rommel]

You do know what they were already working on a service patch before it came out right? Meaning, that they were aware of problems, I'm guess mostly security exploits, before the system was even realesed. Meaning that you shelled out $300 + depending on the version for something that was basically broken right out of the box.

My next OS will either be a linux flavor, or MAC OS-X, which has all the visualy flashy stuff Vista does except it came out a year before. I don't use my PC for gaming anymore so that's probably why it's an easy choice for me.

[Executor]

Ah, people that bicth about having to verify the fact that they OWN THE GAME?!?!?!?!? OH SHIT MINE COPIES OF HALF-LIFEE ARE BOOTLEGS I'M GOING TO JAIL WAH WAH.

That sounds excatly like the bullshit about steam that people still bitch about these days.

And my sytstem was upgraded with the security updates. HA Ha, you lose.

[Opteron-O3]

I might switch over to Mac. They are much nicer

[Rommel]

Ah, people that bicth about having to verify the fact that they OWN THE GAME?!?!?!?!? OH SHIT MINE COPIES OF HALF-LIFEE ARE BOOTLEGS I'M GOING TO JAIL WAH WAH.

That sounds excatly like the bullshit about steam that people still bitch about these days.

And my sytstem was upgraded with the security updates. HA Ha, you lose.

Nope. You loose. You are the one using Vista.

Walked right into that one, mate.

[Executor]

Ah, so in your opnion, even though you havent even fucking used, Vista is a buggy piece of shit? Bull-fucking-shit.

[Mr. Tines]

I work for a company that's joined at the hip with MSFT, but Vista isn't going to be our standard OS for at least another year (pretty much until SP1 comes out).

Also
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

[Jay911]

I work for a company that's joined at the hip with MSFT, but Vista isn't going to be our standard OS for at least another year (pretty much until SP1 comes out).

In a similar vein, my employer (an emergency services dispatch agency) has the opportunity to upgrade to the next major version of our dispatch software, or move to the absolute latest version, which is a few minor versions beyond that. The absolute latest version, however, requires IE7 for some functions to operate - while the previous versions get along fine with IE6. And considering the issues people have had with IE7, both made public around the world and in-house on our own machines, the admins have made the decision to hold off on the newest version of the software, specifically because of its need for IE7.

Considering how mission-critical this software is (kinda defining the very term, in truth), wouldn't you want it running with software that is known to be stable and solid, and not just "works ok for me, you must be doing something wrong"?

[Opteron-O3]

Understandable.

[Ornette]

Microsoft Windows Media Server MDSAuth.DLL ActiveX Control Remote Code Execution Vulnerability
2007-05-17
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23827

Microsoft Windows Vista ARP Table Entries Denial of Service Vulnerability
2007-05-15
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23266

RETIRED: Microsoft May 2007 Advance Notification Multiple Vulnerabilities
2007-05-08
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23800

Microsoft Windows Cursor And Icon ANI Format Handling Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability
2007-04-19
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23194

Microsoft Windows Graphics Rendering Engine EMF File Privilege Escalation Vulnerability
2007-04-19
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23278

Microsoft Windows Graphics Rendering Engine GDI Local Privilege Escalation Vulnerability
2007-04-19
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23273

RETIRED: Microsoft April 2007 Advance Notification Multiple Vulnerabilities
2007-04-17
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23335

Microsoft Windows CSRSS HardError Messages Denial of Service Vulnerability
2007-04-12
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/21688

Microsoft Windows CSRSS MSGBox Remote Code Execution Vulnerability
2007-04-12
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23324

Microsoft Windows CSRSS CSRFinalizeContext Local Privilege Escalation Vulnerability
2007-04-12
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23338

Microsoft Windows Vista Teredo UDP Nonce Spoofing Weakness
2007-04-04
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23301

Microsoft Windows Vista Neighbor Discovery Spoofing Vulnerability
2007-04-04
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23293

Microsoft Vista Spoofed LLTD HELLO Packet Security Restriction Bypass Vulnerability
2007-04-04
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23279

Microsoft Windows Vista LLTD Mapper EMIT Packet Remote Denial Of Service Vulnerability
2007-04-04
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23271

Microsoft Windows Vista Teredo Protocol Insecure Connection Weakness
2007-04-04
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23267

Microsoft Windows Vista LLTD Responder Discovery Packet Spoofing Vulnerability
2007-04-04
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23263

Microsoft Vista Spoof On Bridge HELLO Packet Security Restriction Bypass Vulnerability
2007-04-03
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23280

RETIRED: Microsoft Windows SVCHost.EXE Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability
2007-04-03
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23255

Microsoft Windows Vista Windows Mail Local File Execution Vulnerability
2007-03-27
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23103

Microsoft Windows Vista Voice Recognition Command Execution Vulnerability
2007-03-23
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/22359

Microsoft Windows ReadDirectoryChangesW Information Disclosure Vulnerability
2007-02-22
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/22664

Microsoft Windows Graphics Rendering Engine WMF SetAbortProc Code Execution Vulnerability
2006-10-12
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/16074

These are just for the OS itself, not the software you run on it. Ironically, I thought there would be a lot more.

In comparison: Gentoo Linux, 0 vulnerabilities. Apple MacOSX, 0 vulnerabilities.

[Rommel]

Ah, so in your opnion, even though you havent even fucking used, Vista is a buggy piece of shit? Bull-fucking-shit.

In my opinion, due to my EXTENSIVE use of Windows systems, from Windows 3.1 to Vista and every version in between--oh and Command-line based systems like DOS and UNIX, and alternative GUI based LINUX and MAC OS, yes Vista is a buggy piece of shit.