EVA 0.1: YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE

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EVA 0.1: YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE

Postby cat42 » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:51 pm

So, I'm sure I'm just grasping at straws here, but Let's consider the title of the first movie.

If not is in parentheses, what is the significance? Not is conditional?

IS this talking about Shinji, who sees himself as alone, and him forming relationships with people, or does it mean humanity, and how we think we're alone, but, surprise!, here come the Angels...
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Re: EVA 0.1: YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE

Postby BrikHaus » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:10 pm

cat42 wrote:IS this talking about Shinji, who sees himself as alone, and him forming relationships with people, or does it mean humanity, and how we think we're alone, but, surprise!, here come the Angels...


Between the two, I would guess the former.
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Postby NAveryW » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:14 am

Eh? Movie title was released? When was this?

Well, Anno's titles often reference great works of sci-fi and other media. This appears to be the reference here.

EDIT: Oh, it's from the April Newtype article.
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Re: EVA 0.1: YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE

Postby Szmitten » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:19 pm

cat42 wrote:So, I'm sure I'm just grasping at straws here, but Let's consider the title of the first movie.

If not is in parentheses, what is the significance? Not is conditional?

IS this talking about Shinji, who sees himself as alone, and him forming relationships with people, or does it mean humanity, and how we think we're alone, but, surprise!, here come the Angels...


All of them probably.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:26 pm

Well, the fact the (Not) is like that, maybe it's meant to show something ever-so-uplifting, that people ARE always alone? -_-

But either way, I'd say it's about Shinji.
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Postby The Goose » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:43 pm

Whoever the, "You," is, the title does give a clue about what Anno plans to show us in this new films. The whole title says that, "You are not Alone." Basically whoever is the "you," in the film, they must think that they are not alone, but discovers that they are alone. This could be one of Anno's fears in the film. Even though he has a wife, he still fears that he is alone.

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Postby Trigger's Elysium » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:01 pm

Or maybe he's just being cryptic for the sake of being cryptic. Yoooouuu aaarrreee (noooooot) alllllooooooooooneeee......
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Postby NAveryW » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:07 pm

What are you talking about? This title is (not) the easiest to understand ever!
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Postby Opteron-O3 » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:11 pm

THe title gives me goosebumps :lol:

Can't wait to see it! Few more months left........

Anyways, maybe it could be bout Rei? I think she was the character who was alone most of the time in the series. Shinji at least had the attention. Then again you never know, it could be Kaworu? Especially since we really didn't get to know him very well in the series.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:12 pm

In all likelihood, it is referring to Everybody.

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Postby Opteron-O3 » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:20 pm

Reichu wrote:In all likelihood, it is referring to Everybody.


I'm sorry! :oops:
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:50 pm

I don't feel its referring to any one character.

It's refering to YOU, the viewer.

YOU are (Not) Alone.

And if YOU are (VERY) Alone.

Then I'm (REALLY) Sorry.

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Postby Opteron-O3 » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:32 pm

I (SEE) What You Mean Now.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:38 pm

Opteron-O3 wrote:I (SEE) What You Mean Now.

But "I What You Mean Now" doesn't make any sense.

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Postby Ornette » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:43 pm

Opteron-O3 wrote:I See (WHAT?!?) You Mean Now.

fixed!

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Postby Opteron-O3 » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:53 am

Ornette wrote:
Opteron-O3 wrote:I See (WHAT?!?) You Mean Now.

fixed!


I failed again... :oops:

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:43 am

Copy/Pasta from EML:

So, in terms of the movie title, what do you think it symbolizes? Shinji-kun? Everybody? (<---my current stance on it.)
The fact (Not) is like this makes me think it's ironic, people ARE alone even if they don't want to be. (Just a thought.)


Reference to that old Michael Jackson, huh? It's possibly, but I was under the impression Anno-sensei reference only Sci-fi works? (Obviously not, but...)
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Postby Reichu » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:37 pm

Episode #23 wrote:Rei VOICE:
I'll share what's in my heart with you.
I'll share this feeling with you.
Doesn't it hurt? See?
Doesn't your heart ache?

Rei:
Hurt? No, you're wrong. It's...
...loneliness?
Yes, it's loneliness, isn't it?

Rei VOICE:
Loneliness? I don't understand.

Rei:
You hate being alone, don't you?
There are so many of us, and yet, you hate being alone.
That is what loneliness is.

("You" being "any ol' person".)

Episode #24 wrote:KAWORU:
You go to such extremes to avoid first contact.
Are you afraid of connecting with other people?
If you don't get close to others,
you'll never be betrayed and you'll never hurt each other.
But you'll also never be able to forget your loneliness.
Humans can never banish their loneliness for good,
because being human means being alone.
But humans are able to go on with their lives
because they're able to forget it every so often.


Etc., etc.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:02 pm

Reichu wrote:Rei VOICE: You hate being alone, don't you?
There are so many of us, and yet, you hate being alone.


Angel reference? Yes? No? y'know Rei=Lilith, while other Angels are from Mama Adam/Kaworu
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Postby Reichu » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:16 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:Angel reference? Yes? No? y'know Rei=Lilith, while other Angels are from Mama Adam/Kaworu

Well, since Armisael uses the Reflect attack on Rei's explanation for "Loneliness", the audience is free to come up with something to which to attribute the underlying reasons for Rei's own loneliness. But the main reason I quoted that particular passage is because it ties into the "you're alone and not alone at the same time" dealio.


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