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Re: Star Wars

Postby Sachi » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:08 pm

I don't know how many of you follow Rebels, but the highly anticipated confrontation between Old Ben Kenobi and Maul aired last night, and I've got to say that it was perfect. There were a lot of concerns going in, particularly regarding the handling of Kenobi, but I was deeply satisfied by the entire episode, and the VA they got to play an older Kenobi sounded just like Alec Guinness.

Next week is the season finale. I'm really looking forward to seeing Thrawn in full force. :nyao:
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Postby Bagheera » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:52 pm

View Original PostSachi wrote:I don't know how many of you follow Rebels, but the highly anticipated confrontation between Old Ben Kenobi and Maul aired last night, and I've got to say that it was perfect. There were a lot of concerns going in, particularly regarding the handling of Kenobi, but I was deeply satisfied by the entire episode, and the VA they got to play an older Kenobi sounded just like Alec Guinness.


The parts with Kenobi were perfect. The fact that Ezra had to carry the biggest idiot ball of all time to get us there, and then was sent home before things were resolved? Not so much. I really wish the writing team would work on that lack of consistency, because it's been an issue throughout the show's run.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Shinoyami65 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:16 am

It felt like Ezra just ended up being baggage in this episode while Maul and Kenobi were the main focus. Things probably wouldn't have turned out differently if Ezra hadn't shown up, but they probably felt like he had to be there as the main character.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Sachi » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:26 am

Given the unique relationship between Maul and Ezra, as well as their connection with the holocrons, I'd say it was pretty necessary to have Ezra involved somehow, even if he was sidelined. Ezra needed to be rid of his connection with Maul.

Anyone else catch the reference to TPM and Qui Gon Jinn's fighting style? Overall the confrontation was a nice samurai movie homage, but when Kenobi changed his fighting stance to bait Maul I got the shivers. Even more so with their parting words. What a beautiful fight.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Bagheera » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:28 am

View Original PostSachi wrote:Given the unique relationship between Maul and Ezra, as well as their connection with the holocrons, I'd say it was pretty necessary to have Ezra involved somehow, even if he was sidelined. Ezra needed to be rid of his connection with Maul.


That could be easily handled with a Force vision that showed him the outcome of the fight. Heck, that'd be a better resolution than what he actually got.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby xanderkh » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:32 am

I was both shocked, and very satisfied with the outcome between Kenobi and Maul. Overall, this was a GREAT episode, and a good ending to Maul's story. Now, he can rest.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Shinoyami65 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:59 am

View Original PostSachi wrote:
Anyone else catch the reference to TPM and Qui Gon Jinn's fighting style? Overall the confrontation was a nice samurai movie homage, but when Kenobi changed his fighting stance to bait Maul I got the shivers. Even more so with their parting words. What a beautiful fight.



Yeah, I've seen loads written about the use of the lightsaber Forms and stances in the fight. It really does convey a lot of hidden depth that 5 minutes of flippy acrobatics couldn't amount to.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gendo'sPapa » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:14 am

Trailer for the first possibly GOOD Star Wars movie to come out in my lifetime. Rian Johnson has the gift that the others lack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ

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Re: Star Wars

Postby RadicalRandy » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:55 am

I was not impressed by this teaser, honestly. Nothing incredibly new was introduced, so I'm holding out for the actual trailer.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Bagheera » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:58 am

There were some good details in there, actually. The space battle looks better than anything we got in TFA, and the overall feeling I got from it is that it'll be a bit less ad hoc than TFA was. I'm optimistic.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Joseki » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:08 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Trailer for the first possibly GOOD Star Wars movie to come out in my lifetime. Rian Johnson has the gift that the others lack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ


Meh, the teaser screams "be hyped by some vague and fast cuts of cool scenes" too much. I'm not so interested in Rei or Old Luke anyway. TFA first teaser hyped me a lot more. I also hoped to see a bit more Kylo Ren.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby movieartman » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:21 pm

It was underwhelming. But it is still a teaser.

Seeing At-At types in the distance from the red dirt kicking up fleet doesn't inspire confidence that they won't be homaging ESB. Luke training Rey was already gonna do that. They are really gonna throw Walkers in also?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby RadicalRandy » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:52 pm

View Original Postmovieartman wrote:It was underwhelming. But it is still a teaser.

Seeing At-At types in the distance from the red dirt kicking up fleet doesn't inspire confidence that they won't be homaging ESB. Luke training Rey was already gonna do that. They are really gonna throw Walkers in also?
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Wouldn't be surprised. They love to do intentional throwbacks, and they're really cheesed them with TFA. I'm a bit worried that this will end up being "good but not great", but I'll keep optimistic until I get to see the movie (and more trailers).
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Sachi » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:53 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:Meh, the teaser screams "be hyped by some vague and fast cuts of cool scenes" too much.

That's what teasers are. You already know the fan boys are going nuts analyzing each and every frame. We'll get more plot details in the second trailer prior to the film's release.

I've been watching Star Wars Celebration and following a lot of the news surrounding Ep VIII. Half of things I'm most excited for weren't even in the trailer, such as Snoke's new look and Benicio Del Toro's character. Based on this trailer, as well as the trajectory of other canon material, it really seems like they're pushing the gray Jedi philosophy, or at least they're offering alternatives to the Jedi/Sith dichotomy.

Also, a teaser for the Battlefront 2 game got leaked, and Rey is featured on the cover holding what appears to be a double sided lightsaber, though it's unclear. I would love for this to happen, given that she already carries around a staff-type weapon.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Chuckman » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:57 pm

I just hope Benicio doesn't mumble unintelligibly through the whole thing.

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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gendo'sPapa » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:53 pm

Weird to see the people who praised the steaming & visually ugly garbage pile of shit that was the Ghost in the Shell remake give that teaser a shrug but what can ya do.
Either way, a teaser is a teaser. It exists to say "Hey, a movie is happening." Nothing more.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby silvermoonlight » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:58 am

Its an interesting teaser trailer and at least there can be zero debate now that Rey is a Jedi as the teaser shows her doing her training with Luke though I am wondering though if Finn is force aware though hence why he able to use the light sabre for a short time. I do really want to see the full trailer though as I'm hoping they've fixed the issue with Kylo Ren as I found him really underwhelming compared to Vader as he didn't have that screen presence and I would love to see him to branch out and become his own kind of villain type and no longer be a Vader copy cat.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:07 am

Neat teaser. I like the whole "Jedi must end" vibe from Skywalker. It fits with my notions of the existence of either Sith or Jedi disrupting the balance between the Light and Dark sides of the Force.

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Re: Star Wars

Postby Glor » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:34 am

View Original Postmovieartman wrote:They are really gonna throw Walkers in also?
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I don't think fans can handle a Star Wars movie that doesn't have Stormtroopers, Star Destroyers or AT-ATs in some form or another. Whether it be copy-pasta, i.e. Clones, Accalmator class ships and AT-TEs, or just tossing them in because they know the fans get off on that ol' classic Star Wars feel.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Bagheera » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:05 am

View Original Postmovieartman wrote:They are really gonna throw Walkers in also? :um:


This is kinda like saying, "geez, another WWII movie with tanks?" It's a nonsensical objection, since tanks were everywhere in WWII. The same should be true with walkers in SW -- they're a stock part of the Empire's military, and should show up everywhere they can reasonably be used, same as TIE fighters.
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