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[NGE] Problems with the Manga?

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Postby The Goose » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:57 am

What are some of the things you don't like about the manga? I'll tell mine later.
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Postby TriLink » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:26 pm

My biggest issue with the Manga is that I have to wait years on end for the next volume to be released.

As for liberties the manga has taken with NGE storyline, they don't bother me. Sadamoto is one of the founding fathers of Eva, and as such he has the right to tell the story in his own way. as long as he dosen't mess it up with a Shinji/Rei endingImage
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Postby The Goose » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:01 pm

I really can't find anything wrong with the manga, except that its not as deep as the anime. I do like the characters more in this version rather than the anime (Kaowru, Yui and Kaji).
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Postby Good_Noodle » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:57 pm

Asides from the long wait between stages, I didn't like Asuka's extra dose of bitchiness. She's no longer fiercely independent to make up for her father's departure in the anime, rather just bitchy for a sake of maliciousness. In other words, she's just plain mean in the manga, and that takes away from the sympathy factor for me. And also her thing with Kaji didn't really feel plausible for me, not to mention it is slightly creepy.

Oh, and Kawrou didn't really work for me in the manga because the lack of reason to defy SEELE. In the anime, Kawrou chose not to proceed with the plan because he realized the giant was lilith, and also his love/respect for Shinji. In the manga he kind of jumps boat at the last moment, suddenly deciding to defy his destiny with his free will. This lack sufficient motive for me. Otherwise, I liked Kawrou as an asshole, and Shinji's *almost* violent confrontation was priceless.
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Postby The Goose » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:30 pm

Do you mean how she felt for Kaji?
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Postby Good_Noodle » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:07 pm

Yeah.
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Postby Tokpile Quohog » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:13 pm

He killed Asuka's character.
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Postby The Goose » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:39 pm

Well, at least Asuka's breakdown had a helping hand with Shinji's breakdown. I thought that Asuka had chosen independence because of her mom's death in them manga. I think that gives her enough sympathy. With Asuka's extra anger, I think Sadamoto put that in to decease the A/S romance.

I think the reason for Kaworu's not going to Lilith was that he saw that no matter what, he would always be used by Seele. It didn't matter if he did it or not, there was no choice for him as an indivuial. So, the only thing he could do as an indivuial was choose his own death. I don't know if he was for Instrumentality or not, he seemed like he didn't care if it did happen or not.
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Postby Good_Noodle » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:53 pm

The Goose wrote:Well, at least Asuka's breakdown had a helping hand with Shinji's breakdown. I thought that Asuka had chosen independence because of her mom's death in them manga. I think that gives her enough sympathy. With Asuka's extra anger, I think Sadamoto put that in to decease the A/S romance.


True, her mom's death does contribute to some of her behaviour. Asuka's back story is not as elaborate as the anime, that's for sure. Her initial "good girl" facade was a tad annoying though... pretty stereotypical. I guess it's the result of the high expectations placed on her, but it didn't feel as genuine as series to me. And yeah, all that anger is no good for romanticizing :D

The Goose wrote:I think the reason for Kaworu's not going to Lilith was that he saw that no matter what, he would always be used by Seele. It didn't matter if he did it or not, there was no choice for him as an indivuial. So, the only thing he could do as an indivuial, was choose his own death. I don't know if he was for Instrumentality or not, he seemed like he didn't care if it did happen or not.


Very true. Still a bit sudden for my taste. My initial reaction to the development was "Eh, WHAT?"
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Postby The Goose » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:10 pm

I didn't like Shinji's reaction to Asuka's mind-rape at the end of Stage 60. He looks like a bad actor trying to sound scared and panicked. Though its so bad, its funny to look at. I can't scan on the computer, so sorry.
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Postby Fearthebait » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:53 pm

possibly he couldn't fathom what really happened to her.
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Postby Good_Noodle » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:34 am

Oh yeah, the Asuka-Shinji kiss in the manga didn't make sense at all; it was rather unnessasary. There aren't really attracted to eachother in a significant manner. Come to think of it, Asuka was more of a comedic relief for most of her frames on the manga.

Eh, I guess it was for the purpose of fanservice...?
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Postby Fearthebait » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:48 pm

well, i think there is an underlying plot between the two, considering Asuka asked to be moved to live with Misato and Shinji she must have some feelings.
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Postby The Goose » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:12 pm

Fearthebait wrote:well, i think there is an underlying plot between the two, considering Asuka asked to be moved to live with Misato and Shinji she must have some feelings.


Asuka does seem to have a liking for Shinji, but Shinji hasn't shown as much as attention to her as he does to Rei.
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Postby Jamie the Great » Tue May 01, 2007 10:59 pm

I don't like Kaworu being a jerkface! When he killed that kitten I was like OMG wtf? I'm sort of skipping around in the manga's but I heard Asuka goes psycotic or something. I'm guessing that this is in vol 10? I don't really like Asuka in the manga either but I love Rei a lot more in it!
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Postby Reichu » Tue May 01, 2007 11:01 pm

The Goose wrote:Asuka does seem to have a liking for Shinji, but Shinji hasn't shown as much as attention to her as he does to Rei.

Enough to make Rei a green-eyed monster. (Or so Armisael claimed.)
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Postby Zkh » Wed May 02, 2007 1:42 pm

I love the manga, I actually like it a bit more than the anime, because Shinji is still a whiny little douche, but he's not unrealistically whiny like he is at some points in the anime.

The only thing I don't like is the whole Asuka deal.
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Postby Trigger's Elysium » Wed May 02, 2007 3:03 pm

Zkh wrote:I love the manga, I actually like it a bit more than the anime, because Shinji is still a whiny little douche, but he's not unrealistically whiny like he is at some points in the anime.


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Postby BrikHaus » Wed May 02, 2007 4:47 pm

Is it bad that I've seen the anime many times, but only read one volume of the manga, never to touch it again?
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Postby slothen » Wed May 02, 2007 5:45 pm

i've never seen the manga.
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