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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:12 am

Hey everyone, wondering if anyone could help me out here.

I recently had an urge to rewatch some old Anno and I seem to have lost my file for Shiki-Jitsu. Might've been lost in what I call the "Great (Computer) Crash of 2008". I see the 350 MB size file on this thread works but the 700 one doesn't. I downloaded and COULD watch the 350 size file but if anyone had a better quality version they knew about online (I searched but everywhere I tried came up no luck) I'd be very appreciative.

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Postby FallenTabris » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:26 pm

I downloaded a 712mb version with a separate sub file a couple years back. I'll throw it on MU tonight.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:58 pm

THANK YOU!!

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Postby FallenTabris » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:31 am

Here you go. (the filesize is smaller because I compressed it.)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D8Y1YPTD

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Postby Heromaster111 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Thanks Tab

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Postby Xard » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:13 pm

Ahh, Shiki Jitsu. Now that's great film. Up to 2.0 I thought it was Anno's second best work. Now I'm not so sure.

Here is my review of it which I wrote for IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0269856/usercomments-10

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And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
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Postby maestrotaku » Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:37 pm

thk for the movie.....btw, can you upload "love and pop"???

PLEASE
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Postby Xard » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:47 pm

ever heard word torrent?

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ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby rituald » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:39 pm

For everyone who want to see it:

I find it on youtube (high quality)

It must have taken so much effort to upload those big files...

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Postby shinji_ryoji_89 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:43 pm

Very good film. Everything and I mean everything is top-notch, the only complaint I can have about it was that it was rather slow moving, but it allows you to take in the characters and everything. Definitely an improvement over Love and Pop.

BUMP/EDIT: Does anyone know where to find the soundtrack? Or at least the end credits song and the song that plays when we see the footage of the director and the girl at the fair?

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Postby BornIn1142 » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:04 pm

View Original Postshinji_ryoji_89 wrote:BUMP/EDIT: Does anyone know where to find the soundtrack? Or at least the end credits song and the song that plays when we see the footage of the director and the girl at the fair?


This probably comes way, waaay too late to be useful, but the end credits song (Raining, by Cocco) is up on YouTube. And there are means to rip the audio from YouTube videos. Alternatively, I guess I could upload it myself if necessary.

And anyway - I liked Shiki-Jitsu a lot, far more than Love & Pop. About in the middle, I did start to think that I was wasting my time and that I might as well not bother finishing, but I kept at it and ultimately found it very rewarding. Things just came together beautifully by the end. It had that meticulous character study of messed up individuals that I like so much about Eva, but I don't think my appreciation for it is totally from being an Anno-fan either.
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Postby Xard » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:05 pm

Shiki Jitsu gets better with each rewatch. It's incredibly complex and rich film in structure and themes, albeit yes it's main focus is such character study :)

I too mourn lack of OST anywhere. There were some beautiful piano tunes in the film
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby Oz » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:46 pm

C.A.P. (message in another thread):

It is autobiographical in that it is based on the book that the lead actress wrote about growing up in Tokyo as a Japanese-American child. Shiki-Jitsu is one of my all time favorite films and it's Anno at his best (excluding Evangelion, of course).
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Postby C.A.P. » Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:21 pm

For those of you who don't want to click, I said this about the film in the "Most Watched Movies in 2011" thread...

Still though, while I was watching, there was just this dreary tone about Shiki-Jitsu that just pops out of nowhere if you follow Anno's career. It's pretty much the anti-thesis of Kare Kano or Love and Pop, where Anno was totally sympathetic with the characters he was working with and decided to exaggerate their feelings by molding the form in relentless ways to make those feelings much more realistic than they should. In Shiki-Jitsu, it's the total opposite: the tools he used are the same, but Anno treats the characters with utter disdain, just like the way he was treating the whole cast around the end of Evangelion. For example...

-Instead of exaggerating emotions, he was exaggerating situations the characters were in, as seen with the girl usage of red umbrellas and using CGI animation to make the conflict the main character was in utterly ridiculous.
-There's completely different voiceovers explaining what the two main characters were observing at some points of the movie.
-The exterior shots are, most of the time, all industrial.
-We never see or hear--for ourselves-- what happened in the character's past, so the movie asks the audience to infer the characters on what they're saying to each other and what they're doing now instead of analyzing what they did in the past in our own eyes. There's hints, but no crystallized conclusions.
-We return to the "reality v.s. fantasy" motif Anno loves going back to, only this time, Anno was pro-reality all the way through, and since the center theme of the whole movie revolves the motif (a girl has to reconsider reality, but because of her relationship with her family and events happening around her regarding the family, she never does, preferring to stay in a fantasy where everyday is her birthday), Anno decides to create this black and world where reality must be confronted sooner and later, while fantasy is the obstacle in everyone's life and must be ignored in order to ensure pure happiness.

Seriously, what happened? Granted, it's still a fascinating movie from the mind of Anno, but when did he suddenly become pessimistic in this one particular movie after directing some pretty optimistic moments before and after this movie (I seriously doubt the Cutie Honey movie is anything like this)? Was he seriously regretting joining the business in the first place at the time? Was he thinking a lot about Japan that later gave us this and opinions like "Japan is full of children"? Did the original book treated the characters the same way, or is it pure Anno, being there just to be there, like almost everything else with his career?


Adding to the list, I would add Anno's fascination of trains (and it's even mentioned in the movie too, so it can't be a coincidence), but other than that, my opinion still stands: What happened?
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Postby symbv » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:19 am

> Anno treats the characters with utter disdain, just like the way he was treating the whole cast around the end of Evangelion.

There is some point when some people called it the RL equivalent of EoE for Anno. In fact some even call it the "sequel" of EoE...
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:18 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Shiki-Jitsu

SO GOOD

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Postby Xard » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:39 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Especially with Anno. Shiki-Jitsu was his only 2-hour movie, and it was a draining movie without having to be an animated film.


Shiki Jitsu is vastly superior to any Rebuild so far though
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby Warren Peace » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:05 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:SO GOOD


Damn straight. I actually just saw it for the first time six hours ago. I've been working through all of Anno's works leading up to the new film, taking care of that one gap along the way. Holy shit... I can't say enough. It's required viewing for every single person on this forum. Once Rebuild is wrapped up, Anno needs to get back to this stuff ASAP. That he essentially abandoned that kind of filmmaking after Shiki-Jitsu is infuriating. I adore Rebuild, but a visual stylist on his level needs to make at least 34 more films like this.

Oh, and as far as the topic goes, IF they are going to super-size one of these films, shouldn't it be the last one? A fat Q and a trim Final wouldn't make any sense.

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Postby Xard » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:13 pm

View Original PostWarren Peace wrote:Damn straight. I actually just saw it for the first time six hours ago. I've been working through all of Anno's works leading up to the new film, taking care of that one gap along the way. Holy shit... I can't say enough. It's required viewing for every single person on this forum. Once Rebuild is wrapped up, Anno needs to get back to this stuff ASAP. That he essentially abandoned that kind of filmmaking after Shiki-Jitsu is infuriating. I adore Rebuild, but a visual stylist on his level needs to make at least 34 more films like this.


Pretty much, yeah. Shiki Jitsu is seriously one of the best art films to come out from Japan in last two decades (so is Love&Pop though that takes a bit more time/more views to get into).

I have nothing against Rebuild per se but I wish the project was already dealt with so Anno could either go back to:

- do small budget high quality art films far from mainstream
- launch new anime series with Khara - perhaps he could finally do his Galaxy Express 999/Yamatoesque space opera he wanted to do after Eva but couldn't.

In any case I want more new Anno. He couldn't possibly make NGE better even if he wanted to and while I think Rebuild has been good (in terms of quality) so far and it's fun to see new spins on the original series it gets me nowhere near as pumped as completely new, serious project would.
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ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby robersora » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:16 pm

Shiki-Jitsu is one of the best Japanese movies I know.
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