[MANGA] [NGE] Individual scenes

For talking about everything else Evangelion: from the various manga and video games to merchandising and video/audio releases.

Moderator: Board Staff

Olin of Xephon
Ramiel
Ramiel
User avatar
Posts: 310
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
Location: Standing on the fine line

[NGE] Individual scenes

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Olin of Xephon » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:46 pm

Alright so some people like the anime more then the manga and visa versa.

But were do you think the manga beats the anime?
Which scene(s) do you think were handled better?
And which scenes does the anime do better then the manga?

Taking it a step further, which Shinji, Rei, Asuka, etc. etc.
do you like better, Anime or Manga?

Personally, I liked it better when Shinji woke up in the hospital after the dream with the Eva, got piked up by Misato and then broke down after seeing the city.
It just worked better for me.

Another scene I think Yoshyuki nailed would be Shinji's rescue of Ayanami fro the entry plug after their fight with ramiel (the big cube)

As far as the anime goes, I'm sorry, but few things match Shinji's first encounter with Pen Pen.
And having Shinji talk with Kaji out in the garden overlooked by a decapitated unit-02 was better. (although that way we don't hear about Kaji's childhood)

Character wise, I like Sadamoto's Rei better.
And while I love manga Shinji, Annos' seems a more honest representation of the character.
I asked "And where would you take me?"
At this the beast laughed, tears made of my mother's blood leaked from his eyes.
"I will take you to every place you never wanted to be, and you will hate it."
"Then I will take you to every place you've already been, and you will hate that also."
"Last I will take you to the places you have always dreamed of, and that you'll hate worst of all."

houtaru
Lilith
User avatar
Posts: 122
Joined: Jun 22, 2004
Location: North Carolina (the best

Re: Individual scenes

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby houtaru » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:42 pm

Olin of Xephon wrote:Character wise, I like Sadamoto's Rei better.
And while I love manga Shinji, Annos' seems a more honest representation of the character.


Yeah I agree 100% there. I like the anime better overall, but I do believe Rei is much better developed in the manga.

The rest of the characters, especially Asuka and Shinji, are better developed in the anime. Some people like the 'agressive' Shinji in the manga better, but I felt the anime version of Shinji was more honest and heartbreaking and real.

The Eva Monkey
Admin Emeritus
Admin Emeritus
User avatar
Posts: 8897
Joined: Jun 14, 2004
Location: The Evanets.
Gender: Male
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:55 am

The good thing about the manga is that Sadamoto has had lots of time to think about how to tell the story.

Things about the manga I liked better:

The way in which Shinji still feels awkward around Rei due to the incident in her apartment. Sadamoto really conveyed the "wrongness" of that scene so much better.

The expanded scene after the defeat of Ramiel.

The differences in volume 6, such as Touji's fear of piloting, and Shinji's knowledge of Touji's piloting, and as well, Touji dying. It was just a real heart wrenching series of events.

Kaji's backstory.

Less filler.

Things about the manga I didn't like:

No melon patch scene.

No leliel.

Kaworu is a fucking cat killer.
Webmaster, EvaMonkey.com; Co-founder, EvaGeeks.org; Moderator, r/evangelion.

Follow me on Social Media! [YouTube] [Twitter] [Facebook] [Tumblr] [Twitch]

EVA-01X
Sandalphon
Sandalphon
Posts: 527
Joined: Jun 21, 2004
Location: Terminal Dogma
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby EVA-01X » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:34 am

Things I liked
The nice little WAFFy Shinji/Asuka bit in v.5
Shinji has a sembelance of a backbone most of the time
Unit-01 is sooooo much more frightning in the manga when it goes berserk in v.7
They show just how they got Shogouki back into the hanger after that little incident...

Things I didn't Like
Karwou, 'nuff said.
They killed Touji! (Those basterds...)
A little too Rei-Centric... I like Asuka myself.
The demon returns after a long slumber....
http://www.evamade.org/user.php?id.161
New Signature Image Policy
^Clicky for Evamade!

the-artist-known-as-chris
Adam
Posts: 79
Joined: Jul 08, 2004

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby the-artist-known-as-chris » Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:38 pm

I like the Manga better, for many reasons. One being certain chracters like Kaji. He is handeld SO MUCH better in the manga, his past, his diouloge, eveything is better.

I liked how Shinji knew that Toji was the pilot, it made the whole scene of his eva tearing apart toji's much more dramatic. And while it's sad that Toji dies in the manga, overall it was a better end to his character arc since Toji pretty much does nothing else in the anime after that.

The hug Shinji and Misato shared in volume 2 was touching aswell.

max3000
Matarael
Matarael
Posts: 564
Joined: Jun 22, 2004
Location: teh jewzvill

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby max3000 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:34 pm

stuff i liked

Rei inviting Shinji to her apartment the day after the "incident".

Kaworu killing a cat. <-- puts more personality into him imo
..And i hate cats.. DIE HELLO KITTY MUAHAHHAHA

Shinji finaly breaks out and punches Gendo. But Kaji stopped him.

And also like Aaron said:
Kaji's back story and the extended scene after Ramiel.

Over all, i like the way it was stream-lined to make the plot flow better.

Oh and ofcourse Sadomoto-sensei's artwork :D

stuff i didn't like

Not much to deslike imo :P
Last edited by max3000 on Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Phaze
Sandalphon
Sandalphon
User avatar
Posts: 548
Joined: Jun 21, 2004
Location: Classified

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Phaze » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:11 pm

As far as characters go, I look at it like this: The anime created the characters, and the manga fleshed them out, showing sides of them we wouldn't normally have a chance to see (I know, the manga came out first, but... still).
The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog!

KaworuNagisa17
Embryo
Posts: 25
Joined: Aug 02, 2004

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby KaworuNagisa17 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:48 pm

Kaworu killed a cat? ;-;
Is Gendo Ikari gonna have to choke a bitch??

Olin of Xephon
Ramiel
Ramiel
User avatar
Posts: 310
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
Location: Standing on the fine line

Fleshing it out...

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Olin of Xephon » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:05 pm

I agree, they handled Kaji a lot better.
And I still can't comment on the whole Kaouru killed a cat thing since I'm waiting for the english release, but I think I'll probably like the manga version of him better! :)

I also think the manga seems to take some of the anime's "mistakes" and fix them.
Shinji's clothes in the plug rather then the plug suit, how they subdued eva-01, etc.

The manga seems to flesh out whatever the anime missed.
As I've always said, they compliment eachother.
I asked "And where would you take me?"
At this the beast laughed, tears made of my mother's blood leaked from his eyes.
"I will take you to every place you never wanted to be, and you will hate it."
"Then I will take you to every place you've already been, and you will hate that also."
"Last I will take you to the places you have always dreamed of, and that you'll hate worst of all."

Nephilim
Shamshel
Shamshel
User avatar
Posts: 284
Joined: Jun 21, 2004
Location: ARAUCANIA, CHILE
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Nephilim » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:12 pm

I don't like the fact that Kaji smokes all the time :x
i found it anoying
*insert cool signature here*

Kiel
Ramiel
Ramiel
Posts: 330
Joined: Jul 05, 2004
Location: Richmond Hill, Canada...t

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Kiel » Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:40 pm

I like the manga a lot.

I like it so much that It's getting hard for me to decide which I like better!

I'm a huge Rei fan, so that gives me more incentive to like the manga.

I'm also a big Kaworu fan, so I like the fact he is introduced earlier in the manga.

:shock: But killing the poor neko :cry: :cry:

I love manga, but, I like the anime...cuz I don't have to read it :lol:

I love to read, but the manga doesn't really do the EVA's motion justice.

I think I'm just rambling here.

Gomen :oops:
The Amytiville Toaster

Makes Breakfast Spooky!

RubberSoul
Lilith
Posts: 139
Joined: Jun 29, 2004
Location: Somewhere "good"

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby RubberSoul » Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:29 am

What I like:
You get to see Eva a bit more from Shinji's POV
You get to see more of Kaworu
Sadamoto's art
The characters seem a bit less isolated from each other.
Shinji almost punched Gendo
Kaworu seems to have more of a personality

What I don't like:
It's not finished yet.
Toji's death
Some parts of it are a little cheesy (EX: Asuka beating those kids up)
Lack of interaction between Asuka and Shinji
I can only take so much retarded.

Timesplitter 01
Lilin
Lilin
User avatar
Posts: 1686
Joined: Jun 25, 2004
Location: In the deepest pits of he

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Timesplitter 01 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:59 am

RubberSoul wrote:What I like:
You get to see Eva a bit more from Shinji's POV
You get to see more of Kaworu
Sadamoto's art
The characters seem a bit less isolated from each other.
Shinji almost punched Gendo
Kaworu seems to have more of a personality

What I don't like:
It's not finished yet.
Toji's death
Some parts of it are a little cheesy (EX: Asuka beating those kids up)
Lack of interaction between Asuka and Shinji


I agree on some points
I have too much anime, yet it's not enough. Anime Addict, if it were a drug; I'd be dead.

Olin of Xephon
Ramiel
Ramiel
User avatar
Posts: 310
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
Location: Standing on the fine line

You thought that was cheesy!?

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Olin of Xephon » Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:35 pm

Some parts of it are a little cheesy (EX: Asuka beating those kids up)


You thought that was cheesy?
I mean yeah, it was, but there are just as many (and more) cheesy circumstances in the anime!

Not that that's bad, a little cheese goes down well with enough well done meat.

I understand what a turn off Touji's death is too.
But in the anime, we only see him once after the battle and he's lost his leg, I read somewhere that he would be confined to bed most of his life for mental trauma, of course that is probably just one of those falsified rumours.
Back to my point, it kinda felt like he died in the anime regardless.

Sad ending for him either way.
I asked "And where would you take me?"
At this the beast laughed, tears made of my mother's blood leaked from his eyes.
"I will take you to every place you never wanted to be, and you will hate it."
"Then I will take you to every place you've already been, and you will hate that also."
"Last I will take you to the places you have always dreamed of, and that you'll hate worst of all."


Return to “Everything Else Evangelion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests