First look at Unit 08 and Mari from the theatrical teaser for 3.0+1.0

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Postby pwhodges » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:59 am

View Original PostEl Squibbonator wrote:The good guys are whoever Shinji & co. are currently employed by.

So in Q Nerv are the good guys? Or does the fact that Shinji goes his own way in the end make him self-employed, and himself the good guy in spite of what he's doing?
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Postby Blockio » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:00 am

View Original PostEl Squibbonator wrote:The good guys are whoever Shinji & co. are currently employed by.

I don't think this is how Eva works :sweatdrop:
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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:58 pm

Oh come on, I thought we had a consensus that for all their meanness to Shinji, WILLE were the good guys, I mean they are the ones trying to save and -according to the website's synopsis of Shin- revive the world, versus SEELE and neo-NERV that are trying to finish to nuke it for whatever version of Instrumentality they fancy in this version of the story.
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Postby The Cruel » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:53 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:Oh come on, I thought we had a consensus that for all their meanness to Shinji, WILLE were the good guys, I mean they are the ones trying to save and -according to the website's synopsis of Shin- revive the world, versus SEELE and neo-NERV that are trying to finish to nuke it for whatever version of Instrumentality they fancy in this version of the story.


Good, bad, right, wrong...

They mean nothing when a prolonged, world-threatening war is waged between organizations led by mortally challenged, when one plays god and manipulates his son and ex-subordinates to comitt total human failure and the other denies her guilt in failing to prevent the actions of her prisoner and disregards being his guardian by using her higher leadership as a excuse.

N4I could've been avoided if Kats and WILLE planed Shinjis confinement differently. They didn't gave him the time to grasp his situation and expected him to know this on his own.

For Shinji it made no difference what he could do, when he'll be punished for N3I and Matsushiro anyway.

And even when NERV and SEELE 'll be defeated, WILLE could still be seen as much of a threat for being capable of the same means. Even when they wouldn't initiate a Impact on their own.

Mankind wouldn't appreciate to be protected by WILLE, for being badly affected from this war.
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Postby ElMariachi » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:18 pm

View Original PostThe Cruel wrote:Good, bad, right, wrong...

They mean nothing when a prolonged, world-threatening war is waged between organizations led by mortally challenged, when one plays god and manipulates his son and ex-subordinates to comitt total human failure and the other denies her guilt in failing to prevent the actions of her prisoner and disregards being his guardian by using her higher leadership as a excuse.

N4I could've been avoided if Kats and WILLE planed Shinjis confinement differently. They didn't gave him the time to grasp his situation and expected him to know this on his own.

For Shinji it made no difference what he could do, when he'll be punished for N3I and Matsushiro anyway.

And even when NERV and SEELE 'll be defeated, WILLE could still be seen as much of a threat for being capable of the same means. Even when they wouldn't initiate a Impact on their own.

Mankind wouldn't appreciate to be protected by WILLE, for being badly affected from this war.

Oh come on, this argument again?
Wanting Misato and Ritsuko to "better plan Shinji's confinement" is asking them to be bloody mediums that would know that neo-NERV's target was actually Shinji all along and not EVA-01.
Especially since they didn't even planned Shinji's confinement and debriefing beforehand because they didn't thought that Shinji was still alive and that they were still on the look out for enemy Nemesis Series! And for the million time, they were explaining to him things and even giving him time to grasp the situation and even answered some of his questions (as much as they could, remember that they were still in the middle of the operation of repairing the fleet and getting out of the NS' range), except that they were kinda cut short when Mark.09 started to shoot them.

As for N3I and Matsuhiro, for the latter they didn't punished back then, so I don't see why they would do it now, for N3I, we don't even know what exactly was N3I and what it did, sure WILLE put a DSS Choker on Shinji as a "punishment for his sins", but it's really more of a precaution than anything.
Now for Fourth Impact, he'll probably be punished, but this time it's really his fault.
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Postby The Cruel » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:26 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:Oh come on, this argument again?
Wanting Misato and Ritsuko to "better plan Shinji's confinement" is asking them to be bloody mediums that would know that neo-NERV's target was actually Shinji all along and not EVA-01.
Especially since they didn't even planned Shinji's confinement and debriefing beforehand because they didn't thought that Shinji was still alive and that they were still on the look out for enemy Nemesis Series! And for the million time, they were explaining to him things and even giving him time to grasp the situation and even answered some of his questions (as much as they could, remember that they were still in the middle of the operation of repairing the fleet and getting out of the NS' range), except that they were kinda cut short when Mark.09 started to shoot them.

As for N3I and Matsuhiro, for the latter they didn't punished back then, so I don't see why they would do it now, for N3I, we don't even know what exactly was N3I and what it did, sure WILLE put a DSS Choker on Shinji as a "punishment for his sins", but it's really more of a precaution than anything.
Now for Fourth Impact, he'll probably be punished, but this time it's really his fault.


You know I do feel bad for being angry at them, for them to let this happen. They wasted their chances. There is no better way out and only a hard way through.

Being constantly attacked by NERV and SEELE during these 14 years and having two failed attempts in retrieving Shinji are as much of lame excuses as Asuka telling Shinji that they don't give a fuck about his bullshit with Rei.

And why punishing Shinji for Matsushiro? It's because of Asuka herself and she would punish Shinji on her own. She 'll make him feel the pain he caused to her back then for not saving her and abandoning her.

Shinji was for everyone only a errand boy who should've realised all along that it was a waste to want Gendo to give a fuck about him.

Now there is nothing left for him than to feel all the hate and pain of the world he fucked up.
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Postby Kendrix » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:07 am

So it's happening.

Obvously it's generic battle footage (though it nicely showcases the Q-era 360 cocpit or possibly even an update to it) that may or may not be in the movie,
you can't even see what she's shooting at, though it's cool that she is in an "extra cyborg" eva as she was in her debut.

You still see the bandages, so maybe WILLE were attacked before repairs could happen and the 8+2 might in fact still happen
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:14 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:50% chance this "new plugsuit" is just a stand in for temporary animation & they went with that look because it's more of a uniform color - top half is pink, bottom is purple - & requires less detailed animation.
This footage could be two years old or older when the film comes out in 2020. I would be surprised if anything in the footage shown ends up looking like that in the final film.

I would render a bet that Mari is still very much... on display... in the final product though.
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