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Postby pwhodges » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:04 am

I still get confused - is there actually any company that is in a legal position to give/license/sell the rights for the series' English sub and dub?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:53 am

No one is as far as I know. In fact, I think this is the first time Netflix licensed an anime that fell out of print, so I really don't know how they're gonna navigate this. All of their other anime titles are either in print by other distributors (Fullmetal Alchemist, Gurren Lagann, etc. have US disc releases via Aniplex) or first became available to the US through Netflix itself (Little Witch Academia).

I'll probably chat about this more in the thread for the Netflix release itself.

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Postby KRandMJ » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:02 pm

whats about this redubbing i've heard about netfilix's eva?
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:31 am

View Original PostKRandMJ wrote:whats about this redubbing i've heard about netfilix's eva?

The discussion on that is over here
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:31 am

So anyone think there’s gonna be a New Year’s surprise regarding Final? Or will they do nothing because the movie isn’t due until 2020?

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:34 am

It's tough to say. I definitely think they'll start showing off character art and whatnot at some point in 2019.
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Postby Joseki » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:38 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:So anyone think there’s gonna be a New Year’s surprise regarding Final? Or will they do nothing because the movie isn’t due until 2020?


I expect (hope) another teaser. They were teasing some footage last month like they did a few months before the release of the first teaser.

Hopefully the international subtitle or a release window too.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:37 am

^So far the teasing is very similar to what they did with 3.0. Since the new calendar says 'Road to 2020' on it, I wonder if they might have some campaign planned like the Journey to X Disney has been doing in the lead up to Star Wars.
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Postby robersora » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:31 pm

I'm curios as to when they drop the shoe... I have a gut feeling there won't be any traditional animation in this.
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Postby Joseki » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:38 pm

I think the movie is still going to be mostly 2D animated for a few reasons.
The technology is not there yet, it's a lot more expensive (if I remember correctly a 3DCG animator has a paycheck 10x bigger than a 2D animator), they hired 2D animators for the movie, Mari in the teaser was hand-drawn.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:39 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:I'm curios as to when they drop the shoe... I have a gut feeling there won't be any traditional animation in this.

Whaaaaaaaat........?

At most I see the Evas being all CGI (which, 100% CGI Evas would be a first for Anno), but even then I can’t see Anno not picking up pencil and paper himself and giving us a shot or two of the most glorious hand-drawn Japanese animation outside of Studio Ghibli.

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Postby robersora » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:57 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:The technology is not there yet,

Khara has always pushed the Envelope when it comes to 3DCG in Anime - I feel like that's a big reason NTE exist, to fund exactly that.
View Original PostJoseki wrote:it's a lot more expensive (if I remember correctly a 3DCG animator has a paycheck 10x bigger than a 2D animator),

Is that true? Even for Japan? Wow. Now I'm positive traditional animation will die out completely (maybe with Kyo-ani as last bastion)
View Original PostJoseki wrote:Mari in the teaser was hand-drawn.

Really? How do we know that?
View Original PostJoseki wrote:they hired 2D animators for the movie,

Ok, that convinces me, lol.





View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote: At most I see the Evas being all CGI (which, 100% CGI Evas would be a first for Anno), but even then I can’t see Anno not picking up pencil and paper himself and giving us a shot or two of the most glorious hand-drawn Japanese animation outside of Studio Ghibli.

I sincerely hope so, his scene in Evangelion Q is one of my favorite in Animation history.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:36 pm

Didn’t Khara’s second Twitter post photos of the keyframes for the Mari animation in the teaser? I seem to remember that happening.

Like, I kinda see where this fear of all cel-shades CGI in Shin Eva comes from. Khara has also been posting some animation tests translating some of the hand-drawn shots to CGI animation. But I think it’s there to have more elaborate crowd shots without outsourcing them to outside companies. This’ll probably be used only for shots like those sweeping camera shots early on in Eva Q, and not actual character animations. The CGI tests that they’ve been posting on Twitter have no faces at all, much less any expressions for them, so it’s most likely for all the background stuff.

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Postby Joseki » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:50 am

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Khara has always pushed the Envelope when it comes to 3DCG in Anime - I feel like that's a big reason NTE exist, to fund exactly that.

Is that true? Even for Japan? Wow. Now I'm positive traditional animation will die out completely (maybe with Kyo-ani as last bastion)

Really? How do we know that?

Ok, that convinces me, lol.






I sincerely hope so, his scene in Evangelion Q is one of my favorite in Animation history.


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View Original PostJoseki wrote:Is it normal that an animator is paid 40.000 yen (370 dollars) while a 3D animator is paid 180.000 yen (1.650 dollars)? There's a huge disparity and a traditional 2D animator is paid well below the poverty line. :uhh:




Also didn't Anno animate the explosions in the space sequence in Q? Or maybe he did both?
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:19 am

If there was a time to drastically change up the style & aesthetic of Evangelion it would have been back in 2007 with You Are (Not) Alone. That was the time & opportunity for Anno & Co to switch things up and go all CG or whatever since it was essentially a brand new start. They didn't.
Final will share the same animation aesthetic and process as the first three. It just will probably be more expressive and bigger than ever.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:27 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:Also didn't Anno animate the explosions in the space sequence in Q? Or maybe he did both?

I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I just seem to remember him requesting multiple retakes on the CGI elements of that scene, drastically changing the camera angles and what not. That seems to be how Anno works. If there's something specific he wants to happen in the shot, he'll animate it with pencils and hand-drawn keyframes. (Instances of Anno's team reanimating a hand-drawn shot or scene for the home-video releases don't even involve changing camera angles or anything.) But he'll give himself room for creative changes with the CGI process. Anno is far too precise a story-telling to not want a fair amount of the film hand-drawn, overseeing the creating of each frame of image in some fashion.

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Postby hui43210 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:52 pm

Since this is a half Toei affair.... Maybe new teaser for the Dragonball movie.....Maybe not, but a thought.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:19 pm

Next year, folks.
Man was I bummed out when the 2020 thing was revealed. Uncharacteristic of me, I'd say. A gut reaction. At least we can now say the film comes out next year.
Which could in theory still mean I won't watch it in over two years (imagine a cinema release near the end of 2020, with a bluray coming out in 2021), I'm hopeful it'll be less than that.
The good thing is it'll be worth it.

I do get distracted with other things obviously, I'm that type of person, always obsessed with something. But the curiosity and anticipation I feel for this film is just too strong. It is almost bad anticipation. Like the one you feel before Christmas as a kid lol.

I've thought a lot about it, and I think even if the movie had a theater release near where I live I wouldn't go. This is something I want to experience at home. So I gotta wait for the bluray. How I'll avoid spoilers for all that time I don't know. It's a little anxiety inducing :I

My prediction for when we get new whatever...hopefully we'll get little things throughout the year, but I think it'll be june again. Next time it'll be big, probably. Seeing Mari was awesome, but seeing the classic cast and whatever their appearance is for this movie will be on another level. Trailers I expect a few months before release. Which if we're lucky could be in 2019.

Any thoughts on what the dates "2020, 21, etc." meant that were on Anno's last lamp drawing?
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3.0+1.0 is actually three consecutively released movies. That would change things, if the NGE resembling 1.0 and 2.0 were less than half of Rebuild. It's not gonna happen, just throwing a crazy idea out there.


And is there any reason to not expect the film in summer (Olympics)?
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Postby The Cruel » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:00 am

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:Next year, folks.
Man was I bummed out when the 2020 thing was revealed. Uncharacteristic of me, I'd say. A gut reaction. At least we can now say the film comes out next year.
Which could in theory still mean I won't watch it in over two years (imagine a cinema release near the end of 2020, with a bluray coming out in 2021), I'm hopeful it'll be less than that.
The good thing is it'll be worth it.

I do get distracted with other things obviously, I'm that type of person, always obsessed with something. But the curiosity and anticipation I feel for this film is just too strong. It is almost bad anticipation. Like the one you feel before Christmas as a kid lol.

I've thought a lot about it, and I think even if the movie had a theater release near where I live I wouldn't go. This is something I want to experience at home. So I gotta wait for the bluray. How I'll avoid spoilers for all that time I don't know. It's a little anxiety inducing :I

My prediction for when we get new whatever...hopefully we'll get little things throughout the year, but I think it'll be june again. Next time it'll be big, probably. Seeing Mari was awesome, but seeing the classic cast and whatever their appearance is for this movie will be on another level. Trailers I expect a few months before release. Which if we're lucky could be in 2019.

Any thoughts on what the dates "2020, 21, etc." meant that were on Anno's last lamp drawing?
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3.0+1.0 is actually three consecutively released movies. That would change things, if the NGE resembling 1.0 and 2.0 were less than half of Rebuild. It's not gonna happen, just throwing a crazy idea out there.


And is there any reason to not expect the film in summer (Olympics)?


Nothing personal but it has a obvious reason why it took so long.

And it's because of 3.0.

The happy man in me is already tortured and dead to ever care for a better ending in Final.

The only thing that makes me ever happy about Final is that it ends Rebuild.

Any Sequel and Reboot would be only pointless. And even Anno would rather want to be free from his curse through making Eva.

If anything should be ever done with Eva after Final, then Anno and Eva as we know it should be left alone for good before it gets worse.

Any new Eva can be treated as any Anime and any Mecha Anime that isn't as fucked up as Annos Eva and Rebuild.

And No. I don't want for Anno to make more Eva in 21 and 22. I'm scared of this prediction.

In Shinjis place I rather want Asuka to torture me, than that she and others are suffering because of me.

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I only want that people here know why I'm scared.

I already have crossed a line here.
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:08 am

View Original PostThe Cruel wrote:The happy man in me is already tortured and dead to ever care for a better ending in Final.

Dude, it's a movie, a piece of media designed to entertain an audience, not a human being who was killed in cold blood just to spite you.
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