Rule34: When does it go too far?

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Postby Gus Hanson » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:08 pm

I would be lying if i said that some of the images that Rule34 gives us is nice but sometimes my issue is in terms of characters who are clearly below 18 years of age then how is it legal to make such material?

For those curious in my case, i keep a lot of Korrasami pics and have sometimes dabbled with Opal images but artists seem to like pairing her with Jinora who is 14 years old at best. I don’t want to get in trouble with the law for viewing such cringeness. What do you think about Rule34 and the complications it could bring?
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Postby IronEvangelion » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:46 pm

18 isn't the standard "legal" age everywhere. It's 16 in most of Europe and Japan if I remember right, and sometimes even lower in other parts of the world. There are sometimes other factors at play regarding "too young" characters being depicted in sexual situations, such as some countries (like Canada) considering anime and fan art to be legally protected media due to the underage relationships depicted not harming real people. I'm not saying there isn't stuff I see that makes me cringe. I often wish I could unsee the disturbing EP1 Padme x Boss Nass and EP1 Padme x child Anakin images I sometimes run across during image searches, but I always have the option of simply ignoring such artwork or turning safe search on if I see something I don't like. Legal or not, it's not going to go away, because the internet is global and anyone can use it.
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Postby Justacrazyguy » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:49 pm

As you said, they're characters, not real people. You can do whatever you want with them. And that's the way it should be.
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Postby silvermoonlight » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:14 am

I do have an issue with rule 34 when it involves children who are underage but this may come from my deep dislike of lolicon.
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Postby ran1 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:08 pm

Evangelion is the ultimate #NoFap #NoPorn manifesto.

The existence of Rule34 is too far ipso facto because the de jure territory it occupies is the sanctity of the human soul.

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Postby Lt Light Ark » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:23 pm

View Original Postran1 wrote:Evangelion is the ultimate #NoFap #NoPorn manifesto.

The existence of Rule34 is too far ipso facto because the de jure territory it occupies is the sanctity of the human soul.

Base lusts should either be suppressed by Buddhist self-discipline techniques or fulfilled on a willing partner.


Really? I never got that impression.

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Postby Blockio » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:00 pm

To be completely honest, I just kinda stopped caring at some point when it comes to Eva, probably after seeing someone write a full ReixArmisael fanfic... plus, a good bit of the nsfw I have stumbled over is actually more tame than most things in EoE, so my "moral fan creation baseline" of "it may not cross a certain point relative to the source material" is not even breached.

But thats just my personal opinion on it, and I know for a fact that a lot of people will disagree.
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Postby Gus Hanson » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:33 pm

I don't seem to have a problem with most Eva Rule34 material. The ones that seem to shock me the most are the Shinji/Misato items where she's performing on him "the rest" that she promised they'd do after the "grown up kiss" in EoE. But then again, if y'all don't have any issue with it, I shouldn't.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:47 am

To have a firm stance on the usage of Rule 34 would be to have a fixed definition of what “porn” is, and I would argue that, if there were such a fixed definition, that not all depictions of nudity fall within that category. Especially when it comes to Evangelion.

Evangelion isn’t porn, it just depicts certain sexual urges and certain levels of undress for most of the main cast involved, with almost no intersect between the two. The audience doesn’t even see a bare breast in the two steamiest scenes in the show. (Misato and Kaji making out in the elevator in Ep 9, and Misato and Kaji making out in Episode 20.) Meanwhile the scenes with the most philosophical turmoil get a shot of uncovered boobs in their full, nippleless glory. (Strangely enough, also in Episode 20.) It’s not until EoE where full nudity intercects with sexual frustration, and it’s only depicted as frustration for the characters, which isn’t titilating in the slightest.

Throughout much of the show, the only depiction of nudity is (outside of Ritsuko in Episode 23) very safe and non sexual. At that point, in theory, you can be photographing underage nudity all day long, depending on the circumstances of the shoot, and not be filming an underage porno. Just so long as everyone is safe, nothing is sexual, and you have written permission from the parents, then it should be okay, right? But then, within terms of Eva, you realize that you would have to ask for the consent of Kyoko Soryu in order to shoot a bath scene with Asuka, both of which are fictitious characters that don’t officially exist outside of many pencil lines and a handful of 3-D figurines, and you begin to ask yourself “What’s the point again?”

And then you have to ask exactly what nudity is to begin with. Is the female nipple as free as the male nipple? Do topless scenes with either gender count for nudity? What if it’s just simulated nudity in a live-action movie, where the actors are fully clothed and the “naughty bits” are added in post via CGI? (It happens more often then you think. Look it up.)


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