Shikinami or Soryu relationship with Shinji ?

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The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Re: Shikinami or Soryu relationship with Shinji ?

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Postby Joseki » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:14 am

View Original PostAsuka'sBigBrother wrote:Okay, but that's still Rei being used to explore Shinji as a character.


It's something that isn't Rei II with the voice and image of Rei. It could have been a talking Pen Pen and it would have been the same, it didn't influence their relationship in the real world, they never acknowledged it.
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Postby Asuka'sBigBrother » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:06 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:It's something that isn't Rei II with the voice and image of Rei. It could have been a talking Pen Pen and it would have been the same, it didn't influence their relationship in the real world, they never acknowledged it.


Not really, Anno didn't just randomly choose Rei as the source of the voice and image. He chose her as it's something Rei would say. Whether it's real or not isn't really relevant, The characterization of Rei is still being used to explore Shinji. Characters do not require physical presences to explore other characters, that's an unnecessary confinement for creative expression.

Pen-Pen lacks Rei's characterization and hence would not work as well if used the way Rei was.
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Postby TheChosenJuan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:46 am

View Original PostAsuka'sBigBrother wrote:Not really, Anno didn't just randomly choose Rei as the source of the voice and image. He chose her as it's something Rei would say. Whether it's real or not isn't really relevant, The characterization of Rei is still being used to explore Shinji. Characters do not require physical presences to explore other characters, that's an unnecessary confinement for creative expression.

Pen-Pen lacks Rei's characterization and hence would not work as well if used the way Rei was.


As well as it's not really Anno's style to go that way and have an animal talk. Kind of cliche nowadays when it comes to reality breaking (even though there hasn't been much of that so far either). My best guess is that it's just a common element of storytelling and character-building; have familiar or associated persons that are connected by the plot interact with each other. He could've used a dummy-plug as well (well after that confession scene in 3.0 with that Fuyutsuki guy)
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