Will Shinji Blame Misato If She Killed Kaworu With The Choker?

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Re: Will Shinji Blame Misato If She Killed Kaworu With The Choker?

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Postby Joseki » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:09 pm

View Original PostCybermat47 wrote:Because Fourth Impact wasn't underway the first time.


Ritsuko was pretty clear already that time, and she's the leader of the Wunder. Everyone has a limit and the movie establish that killing Shinji is the line for Misato. Random workers are okay, Shinji isn't.
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Re: Will Shinji Blame Misato If She Killed Kaworu With The Choker?

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Postby Sachi » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:26 pm

Kaworu's ability to deactivate, remove, and delay the choker makes it really questionable as to whether or not it matters if Misato pulled the trigger. She could have been slamming the detonator over and over again the entire time, and it wouldn't have made a difference. If Kaworu wanted to, he could have completely suppressed the choker. However, just like in the original series, Kaworu chose to die in order to allow Shinji to live. And like the original series as well, he died by Shinji's hands (this time, less directly, more inadvertently). Shinji is the one that's going to feel guilty about Kaworu's death. Even if in a moment of raw emotion he blames Misato, it's not going to carry any weight behind it. The emphasis will be on Shinji's personal guilt for leading Kaworu to his death, for leading him into a situation where he felt self-sacrifice was the best option, just like the original!

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Re: Will Shinji Blame Misato If She Killed Kaworu With The Choker?

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Postby Settie » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:31 pm

Doesn't the choker activate after it detects the possible 13th angel? It could be activated manually but it could also automatically activate if it detected certain type of activity, then there's also Kaworus line about the choker being made initially for him. I think it just activated automatically after it detected Kaworus angelic properties.

As far as OPs original question, i could see Shinji being angry at Misato, at least initially, but he's more likely to ultimately blame himself for it. Shinji Isn't in a position to hold a grudge over something he and Kaworu actively pursued, Kaworu took the choker from him and Shinji pulled the spears. That's what ultimately led to the choker going off.

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Re: Will Shinji Blame Misato If She Killed Kaworu With The Choker?

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Postby unitM » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:27 pm

Unlikely. Shinji tends to manifest his anger internally not externally, especially with the state he's in at the end of Q.


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