You've been given two examples in the past few posts.
You mean the part where she snuck into Shinji's hospital room and caressed Shinji's face at the end?
We saw her caress Shinji; and beyond that you seem to be once again denying the possibility of growth and change that you haven't already seen (and some that you have!). Also "planning" personal development is a mighty cold way to look at it.
Well, the reason I may have been denying all that is because of happened between the two characters, it's hard to see them getting along soon on even the most realistic grounds. Sure, it might take them years to resolve some of their issues, but at the present time, things are going to be hard for them. And due to Asuka's last line "How disgusting", she could be stuck with that same personality for all I know. In my view, it might be hard for Asuka to break out of that old habit of hers, and I'm not sure what kind of changes she would made with the opportunity given to her. As for being cold on planning personal development, is it because of how I assumed that Asuka wouldn't make some self improvements anytime soon? Even if it would be possible for her to do?
TheCarkolum wrote:Not for the way she treated others, but for the way she sees herself.
So she did some self reflection. But that doesn't mean she's not the least bit sorry for how she treated others after coming back from Instrumentality, does it?
I don't understand you. You try to figure out whether Asuka is bad or good, but now it seems you firmly believe it's a mean person?
That's what her personality suggests. Especially at the first impression, which stuck with me for a long time.
However, I find curious that you feel that way towards Asuka and not towards Gendo, for example. I mean, he has done far worse things than Asuka has, and he is loved by many fans. So, why this attitude towards a teenager and not a grown-up man?
Actually, I see Gendo as the villain here, along with SEELE. He is the kind of person I would have the pleasure of punching in the face before pummeling him to the ground. Or better yet, in some of my fantasies, have him and SEELE...assassinated by my hands as a way to put a stop to their ambition. (Twisted, I know.)
Asuka is nowhere near to their level, which is a good thing. I just don't appreciate people who are mean to others for almost no reason, like she did with Shinji. I'm sure she would be better if she were a little nicer towards people, and be genuine about it. But I suppose that was the purpose of Instrumentality. If she did end up becoming a better person, all I can say is "Congratulations!". I would've like to see that after the end to confirm that. But if it was just implied, I guess that would do for now.
Mr. Tines wrote:I can't remember if we established whether C.T.1290 watched dub or sub.
I just watched the dubbed. And I only saw the series at least twice now. And EOE just one time. And I think because of that, my knowledge on all of it and its characters are not quite as...full as some others on here, so I kinda stuck with my first impression of them.
I also checked out the link at the bottom, and came across an EVA fanfic crossover with a particular CLAMP work. I just finished the first chapter, and so far, Asuka is the same I thought of her to be in the series. But it seems like I have a way to go before I can finish it, so I'll keep up at it. Kind of enjoying it, by the way.