Eva 3.0 AMV (SPOILERS)

Theben · Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: Eva 3.0 AMV (SPOILERS)

Hi there, this is an amv i made in just a couple of hours and would really like to hear some opinions (good or bad) so I can improve. I'd greatly appreciate it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwFy24a5kA

pwhodges · Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject:

Well, I enjoyed it (though I have to say that AMVs are not especially my thing). I liked the choice of images and their matching to the music in general. The last couple of cuts at the end seemed too hurried; and if I say that in places the synchronisation of cuts with the music could be tightened up, understand that I am extremely sensitive to this, and would say the same of the majority of commercial attempts to match visuals and music! So overall, good job!

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Theben · Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:01 pm Post subject:

Thanks for watching and I agree with the ending I kind of botched it those last 5 seconds at that point I just wanted to finish it. I definitely do need improvement but hey it's my first time putting together an amv. (and thanks for the feedback too)

driftking18594 · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:15 pm Post subject:

I concur with hodges about the ending, there were a few moments in the opening minute that felt a bit off too.

But other than that, awesome. From Gainax's homepage

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The words "city" and "burn" are mentioned dozens of times in the song.

Video has no clips of anything burning, nor of cities.

Kind of fail?

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Coincidentally, I saw X-Men 2 a few days ago, and I think this song would be GREAT for a tribute to Pyro.

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**The Eva Monkey** · Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:41 pm Post subject:

This is far from one of the worst Eva AMVs I've seen, but conversely, it's far from the best I've seen. It lacks concept. It lacks relevance to the lyrics. And it also lacks synchronicity with the music itself. The editing is sloppy, with the occasional one or two frames slipping in between cuts, and I see frequent use of one of the laziest editing tricks in the book, taking a longer clip, and breaking it up by inserting multiple other clips inside of it. To be fair, it's a competent first attempt. And it should be mentioned that working with a single source like a movie can be easy in terms of management, but difficult in terms of quality of concept and editing because you don't have a lot to work with.

Theben, what I would suggest is watching this AMV, and think about how the editor is using the source material to complement the music he's selected. I think this is ultimately what you were aiming for, but fumbled with. It might be useful to you to see how they've edited from beat to vocals, and from instrument to instrument as one takes presence over the other. The concept is no more complicated than yours, however they've made very effective use of editing and clip selection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMcBwbZbKM

It might also be a good suggestion in the future to work with source material that is more familiar to you. Using something that is brand new can frequently have mediocre results.

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Theben · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:53 am Post subject:

The Eva Monkey wrote:

This is far from one of the worst Eva AMVs I've seen, but conversely, it's far from the best I've seen. It lacks concept. It lacks relevance to the lyrics. And it also lacks synchronicity with the music itself. The editing is sloppy, with the occasional one or two frames slipping in between cuts, and I see frequent use of one of the laziest editing tricks in the book, taking a longer clip, and breaking it up by inserting multiple other clips inside of it. To be fair, it's a competent first attempt. And it should be mentioned that working with a single source like a movie can be easy in terms of management, but difficult in terms of quality of concept and editing because you don't have a lot to work with.

Theben, what I would suggest is watching this AMV, and think about how the editor is using the source material to complement the music he's selected. I think this is ultimately what you were aiming for, but fumbled with. It might be useful to you to see how they've edited from beat to vocals, and from instrument to instrument as one takes presence over the other. The concept is no more complicated than yours, however they've made very effective use of editing and clip selection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMcBwbZbKM

It might also be a good suggestion in the future to work with source material that is more familiar to you. Using something that is brand new can frequently have mediocre results.

Oh wow thanks for the honest feedback. I really would like to sit down with possibly all 3 movies and work on a new one across several days/weeks instead of slapping something together in a few hours like I did with this one. I will definitely put more time and thought into my next one.
BTW: that's the amv you linked is the one that spurred me into making my own, that is one of the best I've ever seen.

Catamari · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:49 am Post subject:

I've never made an AMV in my life, so I can't really do any in depth commenting. But, from the perspective of a complete philistine, I would say that it's really not that bad. I think the song you chose has potential, but I think you could have used it better, to expound, there's no real lip or scene synching with it. Given the timeframe you made it in, I would say that's alright.

Is this the first you've made? If so, I think you could improve, but you have a fairly steady starting place - there are certainly far worse AMVs out there.

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**The Eva Monkey** · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:56 am Post subject:

Theben wrote:

BTW: that's the amv you linked is the one that spurred me into making my own, that is one of the best I've ever seen.

I thought that might have been the case. It's definitely worth emulating. I think you did well for your first try. In the future, you should put a little bit more time in, and remember that it's not unlike writing; revise, revise, revise. What you have here is what I would consider a good first draft. It might be interesting for you to go back and tighten things up here and there.

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