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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:09 pm

^Thank you. I’m planning to catch it early next weekend.

I’m looking forward to the film and if it works for me Shyamalan’s trilogy could be up there for me. I love the idea of Superhero films that are actually more about what they would be like in the real world (probably why I don’t care for Kick-Ass which abandoned the real world very quick) so I’m looking forward to catching it!

Oh and I re-watched Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. The movie so perfectly meshes the world of comics with great storytelling and out-of-this-world action after two watches I confidently put forth the arguenment that all future comic books movies can’t be made in live action unless they offer a valid reason. Since most comic book movies now are 75% shot against green screens I think few really could make a good one.

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Postby Chuckman » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:25 pm

Actors are going to be replaced with tailored CGI eventually anyway, so you'll have your wish.

I honestly can't say if you'll like Glass or not. No matter how you receive it I'm sure you'll agree with me that it's probably the only "realistic" comic book mover ever that adheres to its claim to realism, both physically and thematically.

Watchmen, the Nolan Batman, Kick Ass, whatever, they all cheat and include some kind of magic to make themselves work. I've always found it laughable that people call Batman Begins realistic when Bruce is doing shit halfway through the movie that should rip his arm out of its socket or outright kill him.

I don't actually give a shit if movies are unrealistic- as I often say, realism is usually boring. I get realism when I go to the grocery store. I just get annoyed when a movie goes out of its way to growl in my face and tell me how realistic it is and then has characters doing things that should turn them into hamburger. Commit to it or stop pretending, one or the other. I hate it when a movie patronizes me or just screams that the director is somehow above the material and merely deigns to produce this crap for our base entertainment. Nolan didn't do that with his first two but the third one is a giant fuck you to the audience and plays a game of the emperor's new clothes by daring the audience to just admit that he stole the ending with its climactic score and dramatic narration from the 1966 Batman movie to tell the audience off for not realizing how absurd it is.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:37 am

I'm really looking forward to Captain Marvel. The trailers so far have looked great and they have the best approximation of a live action Super Saiyan transformation that I've seen. :lol:

I first got introduced through the character through Earth's Mightiest Heroes where Carol is essentially the fusion of Cap and Samus Aran. I hope the character skews closer to that than, say, Civil War II. Carol's been seriously mishandled multiple times and it seems like Marvel has no idea what they want to do with her much of the time. I get that same sense from DC with Wonder Woman.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:29 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:^Thank you. I’m planning to catch it early next weekend.

I’m looking forward to the film and if it works for me Shyamalan’s trilogy could be up there for me. I love the idea of Superhero films that are actually more about what they would be like in the real world (probably why I don’t care for Kick-Ass which abandoned the real world very quick) so I’m looking forward to catching it!

Oh and I re-watched Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. The movie so perfectly meshes the world of comics with great storytelling and out-of-this-world action after two watches I confidently put forth the arguenment that all future comic books movies can’t be made in live action unless they offer a valid reason. Since most comic book movies now are 75% shot against green screens I think few really could make a good one.


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Postby Gus Hanson » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Just got done with The Death of Superman.

It certainly has a broader scale than the previous animated movie incarnation of Doomsday had. Involving the Justice League and basically with the exception of Wonder Woman not stand a chance against the bloodthirsty creature was epic. Not to nitpick but I really have a big problem when they use those dumb kid putting themselves in danger scenes just to get a piece of techno crap that I am sure if him and his mommy survive, she'll buy him another so why take the risk? :irked: The Clark and Lois romance was wonderfully executed and I swear to Almighty, I did not know until researching that their VAs are married irl! ^_^
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Postby movieartman » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:24 pm

Ben Affleck is officially confirmed to not being playing in Matt Reeves's The Batman...

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FUCK EVERYTHING FOR ALL TIME!


James Gunn confirmed to be directing Suicide Squad 2 with a mostly new cast...

Again ignoring the controversy, I am down with him directing but am concerned for the writing, hope he notably tones down the bathroom humor from Guardians V2 and his habit of beating jokes into the ground. Also hope Katana returns.

Video teasing the Bird of Prey cast... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptLZlrE8MrQ

Meh, really do not like any of Harley's outfits, do not understand why they refuse to make her look anything like any official version from the comics or even use her iconic colors in any tangible way.

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Postby Chuckman » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:48 pm

Suicide Squad was an aggressively terrible movie that was desperately trying to be Guardians of the Galaxy. Gunn could easily make it a good Guardians knockoff. I just hope he goes in an original direction with it instead of making it The Domestic Abuse is Cool Variety Hour with the Joker and Harley, Guest Starring Katana, Who You Better Not Let Kill You Because Her Sword Traps The Souls Of Its Victims.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:08 am

Seeing as one of the things James Gunn did on social media pre-Mike Cernovich & his team of Nazis getting him fired off Guardians 3 for decade old bad-taste jokes from his time at Troma, was flat out state several times that Jared Leto is a for-real peodphile who preys on & sleeps with underage fans of his, I doubt Leto is going to be in the Suicide Squad sequel.

Frankly, it hasn’t been announced but I would bet Jared Leto has been fired from the Warner Brothers DC Universe all together. The studio marketed things from the Suicide Squad set as “Leto was so in character as the Joker you’re getting something special” because they were trying to repeat the hype created by stories circulating around Heath Ledger’s turn as the Joker in The Dark Knight. Key difference is while there’s lots of juicy stories about Ledger getting into character to be the Joker and all he was still courteous and respectful to everyone on the cast & crew of TDK. Leto meanwhile was just a difficult prick to everyone on set because he was “Best Supporting Oscar Winner” Jared Leto. Margot Robbie especially didn’t like working with him and since her Harley Quinn was one of the only things people actually liked out of that film (and have made her along with Aquaman & Wonder Woman the real star characters of the DC Universe for now) she’s in a place of leverage. I’ve heard rumors that Robbie who has a lot of creative control over Birds of Prey basically had all Joker/Leto scenes cut out cause she didn’t want to work with him again.

Toss in all the other factors like Todd Phillips/Joaquin Phoenix JOKER movie existing, the focus on rebooting everything Batman with Matt Reeves turn & Leto having signed on to star as the lead in some 2020 movie called MORBIUS (don’t know the character, don’t care, it’s a comic book movie & will turn a profit even if it’s garbage) in Sony’s live action Spider-Man Adjacent Universe - unless if it’s under their umbrella studios aren’t crazy on having a star being in two ongoing franchises in the same genre, comic book in this case, at the same time - and I’d say Leto’s time as the Joker, just like Ben Affleck’s turn as Batman, is already over. Warner Brothers just has to announce it when they’re good and ready.

Toxic DC fanboys will continue to angrily argue to the contrary & mention old projects announced by WB/DC few years ago as proof Leto’s still around, but a Harley & Joker film starring Leto & another other Leto led DC movies are probably as dead as Zack Snyder’s Justice League: Part II (release date of June 14, 2019 set years ago) & the solo Cyborg film (release date April 3, 2020.... still no writers, director, cast or crew hired).

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Postby silvermoonlight » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:53 am

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I just hope he goes in an original direction with it instead of making it The Domestic Abuse is Cool Variety Hour with the Joker and Harley, Guest Starring Katana, Who You Better Not Let Kill You Because Her Sword Traps The Souls Of Its Victims.


I was really pissed at that take on their domestic abuse between Harley and the Joker because I heard they were gonna put in the more violent colder side of it but felt it would get to the audience so they cut it out. Yet that's the point of Harleys ark is she's an abuse survivor who gets away and out grows her abuser and becomes stronger than him and in the classic cartoon Batman The Animated Series its made very clear that if the Joker is in any form of peril he will throw Harley under a bus and seriously injure her to save himself along with hitting her putting her down and ignoring her.

The scene in suicide squad where he saves her in the plane by dropping her was meant to be her pushing her out to save himself but from what I heard but they changed it when they shouldn't have it should have shown in all its coldness and nastiness along with him hitting her as I still see a lot of people romanising that Harley/Joker are so in love and are such a great couple and I wanted this in the movie so it would silence that perception and make them wake the hell up.
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Postby Chuckman » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:24 am

Venom was fucking hilarious but a Morbius movie is a really weird choice. Without Spider-Man or Blade the character is just a run of the mill vampire.

You’d think that they’d choose a less obscure villain for their villainverse or whatever they want to call it. I imagine Morbius the Living Vampire is about as well known to the man on the street as other Spidey rogues like the Enforcers, Cardiac, or Silver Sable.

The most noteworthy thing about him is the absolute hilarity of his appearances in the 1990s Spider-Man cartoon, where they had to get a vampire past the censors without calling him a vampire, without ever showing him biting anyone, and without any mention of blood.

They ended up having him drain “plasma” from people with holes in the palms of his hands. Which was, oddly, even more disgusting.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:03 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Margot Robbie especially didn’t like working with him and since her Harley Quinn was one of the only things people actually liked out of that film (and have made her along with Aquaman & Wonder Woman the real star characters of the DC Universe for now) she’s in a place of leverage.

What strange times when DC's cinematic headliners are Harley, Wonder Woman and Aquaman. :lol: I never imagined we'd see DC banking on someone besides Batman and Superman. I'm really looking forward to Wonder Woman 2 and Shazam looks...okay, I guess? I'm not really familiar with the character besides the basics and the trailer didn't exactly grab me but it looks like it might be entertaining at least. I've really enjoyed a lot of DC's DTV animated movies and I'm still holding out hope that they'll get their shit together with the DCCU and put out a string of good movies.

I'm dying to see Captain Marvel. She's been my favorite hero since I first saw her in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes as Miss Marvel. I knew of her before that but EMH was the first thing I'd seen with her in any significant role. My memory's a little fuzzy but I believe that was shortly before Marvel had 616 Carol take up the Captain Marvel name and costume. Keeping my fingers crossed that it's good. Marvel has done some pretty shitty stuff with her in the past and I'm a little leery of that. Word is that they want to introduce Kamala in CM2 and I am all for that.

Apparently there's some controversy or other because Brie Larson said she didn't want the press junket to be nothing but white men? I saw the usual suspects calling for a boycott while searching for any new tv spots last night but it reeked of outrage farming and clickbaity nonsense so I blocked, ignored and moved on. Didn't something like that happen for WW and Black Panther too? A 'boycott' doesn't work if you weren't buying the product anyway. :lol:
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Postby movieartman » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:27 pm

Captain Marvel's early reactions are expectedly positive.
Unexpectedly, Ben Mendelsohn's lead Skrull villain is getting universal gushing praise.
Some of the complaints people had about the film before the feminism stuff started was that the plot/villains looked very generic, this seems to put that to bed to a extent. ^_^

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:18 pm

People have been absolutely fawning over Goose. Marvel even did a one hour livestream of her just doing cat things. :lol: They've released a bunch of new TV spots that have some fun bantz between Carol and Fury too.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:15 am

On the subject of Marvel, I saw some guy on DeviantArt today mention how he thought Disney was going to buy Sony Pictures next.

As for me? I think they're not going do that—at least not anytime soon. There are three big reasons for that.

The first reason is that they just bought 20th Century Fox for a massive $65 billion, making it their biggest purchase ever. Disney's previous major purchases—Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm, were all spaced several years apart each. They had to be, because the company needed to fully absorb the cost of each one before moving onto the next one. All of those earlier purchases were about $4 billion each, which means Disney saw a return on them within a few years. But Fox is different. Disney probably won't break even on its acquisition of Fox for at least 5 years. And until then, it would be stupid to make ANOTHER huge purchase while they're still in the red from the last one.

The other reason is legal. With the addition of 20th Century Fox, Disney will control 40% of the American film market. Adding Sony to that would give them another 10%, pushing them over the 50% mark. In American anti-trust law, a company that controls at least 50% of the market for its product is considered a monopoly and can be forcibly broken up. Disney knows better than to do that.

The third reason is that there is no real reason for Disney to buy Sony Pictures. Everything Sony Pictures is doing, Disney already does too. The only possible reason I can think of for them to do this would be to regain the rights to Spider-Man. But even that isn't much of a reason. See, there’s a clause in a contract relating to the Spider-Man movies which says if Sony were to be sold, the rights would revert back to Marvel. So no matter who ends up buying Sony, Disney will still get Spider-Man regardless.
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Postby Chuckman » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:07 pm

I saw Captain Marvel. I liked it. Larson was a little bland, but the rest of the cast turned it into a fine romp. It manages to appear to very somewhat from the marvel theme but ultimately returns to the tried and true “hero fights bad guy who has similar powers and origins but looks slightly different” beat sheet. There’s one twist that will mean more to comic book fans than casual moviegoers.

Overall it’s very safe. Safe themes, safe plot, even the credit stingers were safe. It’s obvious that the directors here are not on the level of Waititi or Gunn.

The real star of the movie, of course, is Goose.

It wasn’t high art but it was a nice pick me up and I walked out with a smile on my face.

Disclaimer: I own a captain marvel purse and I’m thinking of picking up the jacket.

Conclusion: I don’t care what prewritten slams prententious cirtics wrote when this movie was announced. It was a fun diversion worth the ticket price. Three thumbs up.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:51 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I saw Captain Marvel. I liked it. Larson was a little bland, but the rest of the cast turned it into a fine romp.

I had a blast but I think this was the one big misstep the movie made.
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For a good chunk of the movie we see Vers rather than Carol and she was dealing with that whole "control your emotions" Kree brainwashing. I think this might be a Captain America situation where the first movie sets up the character but Avengers and the eventual sequel will really nail their personality.


All in all it felt really similar to The First Avenger. If you enjoyed that you'll probably like Captain Marvel too!
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Postby silvermoonlight » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:02 am

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:People have been absolutely fawning over Goose. Marvel even did a one hour livestream of her just doing cat things. :lol: They've released a bunch of new TV spots that have some fun bantz between Carol and Fury too.


I love Goose the cat I wanna buy his Funko pop figure but I'm just wondering how many people are gonna go oh god no when the realize...

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Its not a cat its an alien monster called a Flerken dressed as one...
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:24 pm

Have you seen the movie yet? That's what I meant by he steals the show. Seriously, it's the funniest shit in the movie.

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He even gets an end credit scene all to himself.
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Postby silvermoonlight » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:36 am

View Original PostChuckman wrote:Have you seen the movie yet? That's what I meant by he steals the show. Seriously, it's the funniest shit in the movie.

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He even gets an end credit scene all to himself.


Not yet gonna see it next week, love that he's getting stuff like this though ^_^
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:19 pm

Batman vs TMNT: The animated movie! Just inject this straight into my veins, please.
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