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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:56 pm

I took you guys up on the recommendation & watched Deadpool 2.

Gotta admit, while I absolutely hated the first movie (it’s poorly made and feels like an awful never ending Family Guy joke that drags on for two endless hours) & the “funny music” gag in the sequel got real old real fast I overall loved it. The sequel was juvenile as hell but had much sharper writing, far superior action scenes & even had an actual storyline that the jokes flowed from naturally. Enjoyed Josh Brolin a lot & Zazie Beetz as Domino has an insane wealth of charisma!

I was very pleasantly surprised!

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:40 pm

I feel like the first one was more streamlined, so I think it was a better movie than Deadpool 2 all around. But, at the same time, if you're not into the one joke of the first Deadpool movie, then movie has very little in the way of something else to offer you, streamlined narrative or not. Deadpool 2 definitely had more narrative variety, so if you're not into the first film's one joke, then the sequel will give you something else pretty quick. I do feel like the characters were better written in the second film, over all. As much as I liked the first film, I didn't give a shit about any of the characters. And those Afterlife scene in Deadpool 2 are actually pretty emotional and kinda took me by surprise.

Also, Shiori Kutsuna and Zazie Beetz need to be in more everything. I will even watch horrible Michael Bay movies if it means more Shiori Kutsuna and Zazie Beetz. (I probably won't enjoy them that much, but I'll watch them.)

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Postby movieartman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:03 pm

Fantastic 5 minute Aquaman trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWnLiffxJ4

Everything about this looks great besides the piss joke & them making Arthur seem dumb.

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Postby Chuckman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:34 pm

I saw Venom this morning.

It’s fucking hilarious. I wanted a horror comedy about a musclebound doofus and an alien slime trying to be a superhero and that’s exactly what I got. My main complaint is that it spends too long -almost half the run time- on the setup part, and this shortchanges the symbiote a bit, making the emotional climax of the film feel forced.

The absence of Spider-Man actually forced them to get a little visually creative.

It’s very much a throwback to the pre-Iron Man era of comic book adaptations that were so desperate to avoid cheese that they became dangerously cheesy. It reminds me of The Mask if it hadn’t been sanitized for kiddies.

It’s neither a Marvel formula movie nor a brooding meditation on why life sucks and everything is shit. It’s it’s own thing.

I desperately hope they make a sequel. I don’t care about loyalty to giant corporations or studio drama, I just want them to deliver on the first post-credit scene that actually left me excited in about five years.

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Woody Harrelson in a ridiculous orange wig hamming it up to holy hell as he plays the most 1990s of 1990s comic book characters.


Also Tom Hardy sounds fine and I don’t undretand why they made him sound like he has a speech impediment in the trailers.

If it does bomb I expect it to eventually earn cult classic status. Ignore the bulk of critic reviews; you can tell most of the film critic scene spent too much time honing takedowns of this movie before they saw it to say anything meaningful.
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Postby silvermoonlight » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:09 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I saw Venom this morning.

It’s fucking hilarious. I wanted a horror comedy about a musclebound doofus and an alien slime trying to be a superhero and that’s exactly what I got. My main complaint is that it spends too long -almost half the run time- on the setup part, and this shortchanges the symbiote a bit, making the emotional climax of the film feel forced.


When you say horror comedy are you talking sharp Gremlins black comedy that nails it or B movie so good it bad horror?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:23 pm

This sounds like a fun RedBox rental for me.

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Postby Chuckman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:12 pm

View Original Postsilvermoonlight wrote:When you say horror comedy are you talking sharp Gremlins black comedy that nails it or B movie so good it bad horror?


It's not as good as Gremlins, but that's not a bad comparison.

The horror is fairly toned down, but some scenes are genuinely disturbing, PG-13 or not.

As I said above, the main knock against this movie is the pacing. It spends too much of its runtime on the buildup and doesn't pay it off. I believe it when Hardy says 40 minutes were cut; at least some of that should have gone back in.

It's not a *good* movie. It's hard to describe. It's almost Raimi-esque in an odd way, now that I think about it. More Darkman than Spider-Man, but more Army of Darkness than Evil Dead.

The whole affair has an early 2000s/late '90's feel to it, like a lost film from the Blade/Singer X-Men era that was left in the can because the director went out of control.

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:This sounds like a fun RedBox rental for me.


It's not a big screen spectacle movie that's really served by a theater-going experience. For whatever reason, it actively chooses to avoid the big splashy set piece moment.

It's kind of refreshing, actually. The fights aren't edited into an incomprehensible mess, there's no blue beam shooting into a sky portal, and the plot is so paper thin as to merely be a vehicle for Hardy as Brock/Venom making an ass out of himself.

What makes it so goddamn funny is how utterly ridiculous Brock is as a character. The movie, I think, strikes a good balance between refusing to take this absurd subject matter seriously without insulting the audience for liking it. It's pure cheese, and it doesn't force the "darkness" down the audience's throat, instead playing it for laughs.

Oh, and I have to reiterate: The mid-credit scene is one of the best I've ever seen and almost worth the price of admission by itself. There's also a short clip of Spider-Verse after the end of the credit reel. It looks pretty damned amazing.
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Postby Gus Hanson » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:06 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:It's almost Raimi-esque in an odd way, now that I think about it. More Darkman than Spider-Man, but more Army of Darkness than Evil Dead.

So would that be like saying it's like Batman Returns at times but other times more like Batman Forever?
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:43 pm

It’s honestly too upbeat to compare it to any Batman movie. There is no rainy brooding.
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Postby movieartman » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:32 am

Titans is getting decent reviews (better than venom)

Anna Diop finally confirmed that Starfire will get a faithful outfit later in Season 1.

Teaser for series adaption of Garth Ennis's The Boys.
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Postby silvermoonlight » Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:22 am

View Original PostChuckman wrote:It’s honestly too upbeat to compare it to any Batman movie. There is no rainy brooding.


Sounds then more like Return Of The Living Dead which is dark as hell in place yet manges to be very comical.
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Postby Chuckman » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:43 pm

It’s not that good.

That’s the best I can say about it. It reaches in the directions of all these camp classics but it can’t get there.
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Postby movieartman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:31 pm

James Gunn may write & even direct Suicide Squad 2.

Ignoring the controversy, I'd be down with him directing, I'm wary of him writing as Guardians v2 was all him writing wise & while I love a lot about that film, the humor was a major weak link with the loud obnoxious turd banter, the tazer face joke being beat into the ground & more.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:31 pm

I lived in a rural area for a time where every man-in-between-jobs-for-5-years-straight-buying-illegal-drugs had a similar attitude as Taseface. To me, these jokes are never not funny.

But also, Holy Shit! James Gunn working with Disney’s direct competition? Ouch.

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Postby El Squibbonator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:15 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Which honestly makes sense to me since Disney/Marvel are fully intending to merge all the X-Men characters into the MCU over the course of the next few years & while every other character is going to be recast - I fully expect a new Wolverine will be cast by 2020- they don't intend to get rid of Ryan Reynolds. BUT they do want to make him a PG-13 character. A re-release of PG-13 Deadpool 2 would be an ideal way to test the idea.


But that's missing the entire point of the character. Deadpool only works in an R-rated movie. There's no way to make him marketable to children, because that's the whole concept of him as a person-- a ruthless assassin who kills people in a variety of gory, gruesome ways, while at the same time spouting profanity. THAT'S. WHAT. DEADPOOL. IS. If you took all that away from him, you'd be left with. . . I don't know, probably the "Deadpool" from X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Disney needs to understand that they are a company, and not just a brand. What do I mean by this? Well, neither of Disney's biggest competitors (Time Warner and Comcast) have an overarching commitment to being "family-friendly" that prevents them from releasing material aimed at adults. Time Warner, for example, owns HBO, which airs the very adult-oriented Game of Thrones. Disney, on the other hand, refuses to release anything with more than a PG-13 rating, not even through subsidiaries such as Lucasfilm and Marvel. So why can't they be more like Time Warner or Comcast, and just release movies for adults as well as kids and families?
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:36 am

Surprised to see no one is talking about how Netflix has cancelled both Iron Fist AND Luke Cage. Throw in the quiet cancellation of The Defenders - Netflix let it quietly die but but it was one of the biggest massive disasters for them, from what I heard from some colleagues involved in the shows the original plan was to have The Defenders be a super series with a new season every 18 months wher each go-around introduces new cheap-O Marvel characters who would then get their own spin-offs - and rumors that Jon Bernthal is really not happy that no matter what they try to do The Punisher forever remains an avatar for meathead gun loving racists & the Alt-Right everywhere and I’d be curious to see if any of these Netflix/Marvel shows are still around when Disney Streaming starts pumping out their Official The-Real-Deal MCU tie-in series in late 2019/early 2020.

The Punisher has finished filming Season 2 and Jessica Jones Season 3 is in production right now so even though I don’t intend to watch them I will be curious from a strictly business - plus supporting my friends sense - to see if any of these shows get picked up for any future seasons. Frankly, I feel only Daredevil (or as I tend to view it, 13 Hours of Catholic Guilt) getting picked up for another season is a possibility and that THAT Season 4 being used as a pseudo Defenders Season 2 to wrap everything up.

Call me crazy but I would bet that even for Netflix’s Keep-Them-Watching-With-New-Content-All-The-Time business model, releasing FOUR similar toned 13 Hour TV shows set in the same universe over the course of one year really cannibalized the MCU/Netflix business somewhat.

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Postby movieartman » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:50 pm

A Falcon & Bucky team up series announced for the Disney streaming service.

Birds of Prey confirmed castings...
Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Huntress.
Jurnee Smollett-Bell as Black Canary.
Ewan McGregor as Black Mask.

Virginia Madsen (candyman) cast in the Swamp Thing series.
According to Deadline, Madsen will be playing Maria Sunderland, who does not appear to be an established DC Comics character.

Maria "traded in her privileged upbringing for the swamps of Marais when she married local business magnate Avery Sunderland (not yet cast), but Avery’s life-time obsession with the swamp has driven a wedge between him and Maria. Her poised existence is shaken further when the return of Abby Arcane reawakens a deep grief over the loss of Maria’s daughter, Shawna, drawing her into the dark supernatural mysteries emerging from the swamp."

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Postby Blockio » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:40 pm

Recently watched BAtman: Assault on Arkham. Easily my favorite Superhero movie in just about all aspects, and (in my opinion) far more interesting characters than the beaten to death Batman vs Joker story (I mean it's in there, too, but it's not the focus).
Also, somehow Killer Frost manages to kill some 10 people on screen and still come off as one of the genuine nicest characters in the entire franchise
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:06 pm

Once Upon A Deadpool to be released in a limited engagement on December 12. Limited run sounds like it will officially end Christmas Eve.
Basically it's Deadpool 2 re-cut to be PG-13 and will have a new framing device that was shot in a day with Ryan Reynolds, Fred Savage & a probable cameo or two. Good chunk of proceeds - $1 of every ticket sold - to be given to "Fudge Cancer" charity.
So it's a nice surprise for comic nerds.

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