Let me be clear, I was not calling anyone in this thread psychotic, irrational or a spiteful sadist, I was talking strictly about the originators of said terms, male gaze & objectification.
I hold no hostility to you Chuckman or Gendo's Papa but I am baffled.
Like... if you see a woman's cleavage in real life and in the back of your head feel the equivalent of "that's nice" are you going to slap yourself as punishment for suposedly reducing her down to said cleavage?
Were the hell does this rabbit hole end?
Chuckman you lusted after Tomei in your Spider-Man Homecoming review (which is a 100% fine thing to do, she is a goddess)
Joke or not, When you thought out that statement, in your mind did you see her as...
1 - A fuckable object?
2 - A person?
3 - A person whose fuckability was a notable priority to you personally at that moment in time?
My point is... modern feminist are trying to force the idea that if we think such thoughts then we inherently see said woman as #1. When in reality it's #3.
but there are certain aspects of this present in the female characters of 300and MoS.) Any strength displayed by these Amazonian can, if not contextualized properly, be more quickly and easily compared to Dominatrix fetishism than anything meaningful outside of the sexualized cornerstone of these characters.
See here, I don't believe just showing off the Amazon's abs would be enough for it to come off like that, and I inherently disagree that there is anything wrong with it coming off as "dominatrix fetishism" for villains regardless. And considering Faora was one of the most universally well received aspects of Mos I think most would agree on that.
And for that matter take it up with Donner & Sarah Douglas in Superman 2 as Ursa was notably more dominatrix-ish then Snyder's Faora was.