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Re: Superhero/Comic Based Films & Tv - Vol.2

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:41 pm

Saw Spider-Man: Homecoming. Was fine. Nothing special.

I found it to be another case of the "Marvel Marketing Misbrand" hurting my overall enjoyment of the film. Just like their earlier cases of misbranding: "Captain America: The Winter Soldier is really a 70s conspiracy thriller...with superheroes" & "Ant-Man is really a heist movie... with superheroes" the two years of branding Homecoming "a John Hughes high school movie...with superheroes" left me disappointed with the superheroes drowning out the fun attempt at genre. This was a piss poor attempt at a high school movie just like those others were piss poor conspiracy thrillers & heist flicks. When Peter Parker & his friend went to that party I wanted the fun of a John Hughes movie where the various high school personalities bounced off one another & then Spider-Man was thrown into the mix. Never happened. They walk in, he exchanges a few a lines with the non-character that is Liz (such a shame since the actress was working overtime to sell her as a real person), Flash 3.0 throws out a joke & then Peter is basically done with the party. This was the same with the actual prom & most high school elements in the film. Pure superficial window dressing that the filmmakers never actually took advantage of. Every time the film flirted with the idea of dealing with a superhero in classic high school antics they just dived back into an expensive set piece. Some of the set pieces were solid, I liked the Washington DC stuff because it actually was small-scale & had a great use of color & greatly enjoyed the creativity of the action scene when Spider-Man found himself stuck in the skyscraper-less suburbs though sadly the movie drops the ball in final action scene which is an ugly, visually drab & poorly executed mess BUT what I really wanted to see was the movie they'd been selling for ages. A boy in high school in love with a girl who also has powers. The film didn't deliver on that promise. The girls were not people & everything to do with high school was just set dressing. Very disappointed to be honest.

Tom Holland is good in the role. He's a perfect representation of the character with any flaws smoothed out so he's easy to love. I didn't find him anywhere near as compelling as Tobey Maguire's version (Spider-Man 2 is a stone-cold masterpiece that as well as being a great pure superhero movie elevates far above the genre as being a real coming of age movie) but he was far superior to the smug Andrew Garfield rendition. Robert Downey Jr isn't as much of an overbearing presence as I feared & does fine. Young Aunt May is hot... that's it. As I previously stated the girl who plays Liz really tries her all to giver her character some dimension but the writers aren't interested in that. All the praise for Zendaya in this movie is unearned though. The talk about her performance for months has been that she's the secret weapon of this film & that couldn't be further from the truth. She's more of a non-character than Liz. It's not that Zendaya's performance is bad min you, it's just that her character is an empty quip machine. She's brought out once every 15 minutes or so to deliver a deadpan one-liner with the same tenor & that's it. There's one line where she's allowed a second of vulnerability but that is immediately followed with another one-liner. The actress equates herself well with the material given but there's nothing there. Michael Keaton as Adrian Toomes/The Vulture is the best part of the movie & every scene with him is a true delight but sadly while the film starts out on a very strong foot with him aside from one scene late in the game his motivation is forgotten.

So it's fine. It's a much better movie than the two Marc Webb disasters & it ends up being a stronger film than Spider-Man 3 because it's more focused BUT it doesn't come close to the quality of the 2002 original & isn't in the same ballpark as Spider-Man 2. Probably sits somewhere in the middle of the MCU canon for me. It's a decent time out at the movies but with War for the Planet of the Apes, The Big Sick & Baby Driver probably playing in the same theater you have much better options on what to see.

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Re: Superhero/Comic Based Films & Tv - Vol.2

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Postby movieartman » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:12 pm

Thanos's Black Order for Infinity War has been revealed.
As a massive fan of Hickman's Avengers work that these characters were introduced in I am very pleased, they all look pretty much spot on.
Supergiant is missing but that is logical as they have Ebony Maw and don't really need another telepath/mental manipulator.
Comic versions - https://geeksofcolor.files.wordpress.co ... g_1408.png
Movie versions
- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEzojyPVwAAWDdI.jpg:large
- https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers ... po-a152482

That being said, I do not like this Thanos look at all. I really hope it is temporary and he goes back to the GOTG design which was perfection.


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