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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:55 am

I was always under the impression that "best girl" was in reference to their age, which is why the usual candidates were Rei, Asuka, Hikari, and now Mari, while the mature women like Misato, Ritsuko, and Maya were rarly considered.

If that is the case, then the Best Boy for me would have to be either Kaworu or Kensuke. You can't fault the initiative of either of those guys. If age isn't a factor, then Kaji is Best Boy, hands down.

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Postby Snow » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:38 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:I was always under the impression that "best girl" was in reference to their age, which is why the usual candidates were Rei, Asuka, Hikari, and now Mari, while the mature women like Misato, Ritsuko, and Maya were rarly considered.

I'd say it refers more to the sex of the character, not the age. And i will disagree with mature women not being considered, Misato is quite a popular one.

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:If that is the case, then the Best Boy for me would have to be either Kaworu or Kensuke. You can't fault the initiative of either of those guys. If age isn't a factor, then Kaji is Best Boy, hands down.


You don't see Kensuke getting much attention on the forums. Interesting opinion nonetheless.
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Postby Bagheera » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:48 pm

View Original PostSachi wrote:As much as I despise the character, Kaworu is obviously best boy. I'm surprised no one else has brought him up yet. Given the Christ associations and such, he's the closest thing there is to "perfect". Wasn't the original intention of the character supposed to be everything that Shinji was striven to be, or something along those lines?


Kaworu is an Angel designed to obliterate Shinji's psyche, a task he performs with great efficacy. He is "best boy" if your criterion is weaponized affection; by any other standard he's kinda pants.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:55 pm

Shinji is best boy. Forever and for always.

Followed closely by that one NERV Tech with a big bushy mustache in the far far background of some control room shots.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:33 pm

View Original PostSnow wrote:I'd say it refers more to the sex of the character, not the age. And i will disagree with mature women not being considered, Misato is quite a popular one.

I've always heard her considered in more "Waifu" conversations, but that would suggest that I can actually make a clear distinction between the two.

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Followed closely by that one NERV Tech with a big bushy mustache in the far far background of some control room shots.

I know who you're talking about! I've always called him "Anime Burt Reynolds." He shows up in both NGE Episodes 1-2 and Eva 1.11. His presence amuses me every time I see him.

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Postby Snow » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:51 pm

And i thought ''best girl'' was your waifu of preference. I have lived all these years in obscurity, it seems..
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:22 pm

To be fair, I might be overthinking the terminology behind "waifu" and "best girl," but overthinking things tends to be EvaGeeks's default setting. (Or, it's at least MY default setting.)

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Postby Snow » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:26 pm

I would argue so. One of the main problems in the internet is the over-analyzation of simple things, that were created as stupid jokes.
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Postby Sachi » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:44 am

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Kaworu is an Angel designed to obliterate Shinji's psyche, a task he performs with great efficacy. He is "best boy" if your criterion is weaponized affection;

Yes. Everyone is using their own arbitrary standards for best boy, and I would argue that each of the male characters is "best boy" in some category or another. I stand by bishounen Jesus.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:06 am

The "Kaworu = Jesus" meme has gotten a lot of mileage, but I would argue that he is the Anti-Christ instead. You even have the origin reversed, for goodness sake!

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Postby Snow » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:43 am

View Original PostSachi wrote:Yes. Everyone is using their own arbitrary standards for best boy, and I would argue that each of the male characters is "best boy" in some category or another. I stand by bishounen Jesus.


In what category do the SEELE council members go apart from Lorenz?
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Postby Bagheera » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:02 am

The funny thing about the Kaworu = Jesus meme is that Shinji's the one who saved humanity in the end. He's also the one who died and came back to life. And heck, he even has the stigmata! The only way to make him a better fit for the role would be to make him a Jewish carpenter.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:02 pm

Bagheera wrote:The funny thing about the Kaworu = Jesus meme is that Shinji's the one who saved humanity in the end. He's also the one who died and came back to life. And heck, he even has the stigmata! The only way to make him a better fit for the role would be to make him a Jewish carpenter.

Nice call on the stigmata... but did Shinji die for our sins?

Also, we should give Shinji a Jesus beard and sandals and have him wander be in a desert for 40 days... oh my god, Shinji in rebuild is Jesus! Well, if you substitute red wasteland for desert you have it. And I would have to say Kaworu is more like Lucifer, the Fallen Archangel, becoming the harbinger of evil and all that.
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Postby xanderkh » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:32 pm

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:Nice call on the stigmata... but did Shinji die for our sins?



:cringe: Um......with THAT analogy......I hope that's not foreshadowing something. :sniffle:
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:34 pm

xanderkh wrote::cringe: Um......with THAT analogy......I hope that's not foreshadowing something. :sniffle:

Well, Shinji has plenty of his own sins to die for, like almost ending the world twice with his poor and hasty decision making. Maybe his death fixes the world or some such... we just have to wait and find out.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:33 pm

Which continuity is the current tangent supposed to be in...?

Assuming the original, where Kaworu is totes the Anti-Christ, I would submit that Rei/Lilith (they're the same again by the end, so) is the primary "Jesus". Shinji is more like... a proxy of a proxy.

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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:44 am

Reichu wrote:Which continuity is the current tangent supposed to be in...?

I was referencing the rebuilds directly with my most recent statement.
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Postby pwhodges » Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:42 am

Persuading Shinji in Q that he knows how to put things right is a bit like the role of the serpent in Eden.
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Postby Joseki » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:18 pm

While Kaworu is surely manipulating Shinji during the course of the movie I won't say that he had malicious intents or that he wasn't acting in Shinji's best interests, or at least what he believed were his best interests (before realising that he was played by Gendo).
Rebuild Kaworu may be a mysterious, vague, godlike creature but he's still flawed as every other human being and that's the beauty of his character.
However, I won't say that he's "best boy", and I tend to ignore NGE Kaworus because he has so little screentime that he's more a plot device than a real character in the story, because he lacks what I feel is the core of Evangelion: the will to fight and continuing to exist.
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Postby Magneto » Thu May 11, 2017 11:30 am

Kensuke: Many see him just as a '' military-otaku '' I think he's the most mature among the kids in this show.

I liked Gendo before, but this thing of joining with Yui made him weak, I really liked the "evil genius" style and with more similar motivations than Seele's.


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