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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:56 pm

Hello everyone!

I'm just announcing a fic i'm putting together for sometime next year, thought I'd run it by you all. It''s titled Ace Combat Evangelion. It's a combination of the characters we love so much with a world where massive and deadly planes are built, and aerial combat is the only means of survival, the series Ace Combat.

I've always enjoyed playing aerial combat games and had a thought, what if the EVAs were planes? The pilots would of course be the same, but the story would be quite a lot different. The Angels would be high-powered flying fortresses (similar to the superweapons in the Ace Combat series), or simply opposing squadrons of fighters.

To go through with this properly, I decided to pick one of the super-fighters from Ace Combat: Skies of Deception, the XFA-33 Fenrir. Now, this plane is quite versatile, and very powerful, only being unlocked and available at the end of the game it is introduced in, this video shows off some of its capabilities, and is in the back of the fighter group in the pic below.
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So, just looking for some feedback on this stry idea, as I'm curious as to what people think. Below are my color designs for our most famous Evangelions, along with a basic pain scheme for the fighter.
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Postby Fyrstorm » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:24 am

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:what if the EVAs were planes?

I'd say Eva-303 by GrummanCat gives this a good shot-- but let not that dissuade you. Aeroplane!Evas are always a fun idea. Certainly better than Boat!Evas. I will say I'm interested in what you've got going for this thing. Seems neat.
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Postby MisterHalt » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:20 am

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:I've always enjoyed playing aerial combat games and had a thought, what if the EVAs were planes? The pilots would of course be the same, but the story would be quite a lot different. The Angels would be high-powered flying fortresses (similar to the superweapons in the Ace Combat series), or simply opposing squadrons of fighters.

I think most of the 'Angels' would be squadrons or experimental fighters. For instance Israfel would be an experiment to make a pilot and their wingman act in perfect sync (forcing Shinji and Asuka to learn the hard way). Ramiel and Zeruel are really the only ones that could be considered flying fortresses.

Now that I think of it, a lot of the Angel traits could be converted relatively easy into fighter jet weapons and abilities. Except for maybe 'melee' stuff like Sachiel's lance and Shamshel's whips. But I'm sure you'll think of something good.

Aaaaaand now I'm listening to Zero (the song from Ace Combat Zero).
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Postby silvermoonlight » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:30 am

I really like this idea I've also read GrummanCat comic and I feel the idea is open to a lot of scope and it would be really interesting to see how it differs from the comic and where you go with it .
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:24 am

No the only other thing I'm having trouble placing is whether or not it should take place in Strangreal (like pretty much all the games) or the real worlld (like AC:Joint Assault or Ace Combat Horizon).

I mean, Strangreal seems to be the better option, as it's completely open, and I war is a thing that happens often. Whereas, the real world allows the use of real locations more people may recognize.

It's a tough choice...
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Postby amitakartok » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:04 pm

Considering the topic of this thread, I have the urge to post this for inspiration.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:56 pm

Well, when I posted the original pictures, I realized I'd left off the insignia form the planes, how foolish of me. So, did some pixel art of the NERV emblem (Pretty good stuff too considering its 27x27 pixels!) and pasted it on the planes with some other modern aircraft identifiers, such as the tail markings, so now they should look more realistic

> Unit-00 (Original)
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> Unit-00 (Refit)
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sat May 13, 2017 1:12 pm

Hello all.

So, while this story is still a ways off while my current fic is still underway, I have decided on the titles of the stories for the series, all names directly from the Ace Combat series. Seemed like an appropriate way to do things, and of course, the titles also reference the events of in the fic as well, and split things up nicely.

Prequel: 1, five chapters long, sets up the basis for the main (and somewhat familiar) story.
    > Ace Combat Evangelion: Part 0 – Skies Unknown
    Formerly "The Unsung War"
Main Story: 4, ten chapters each, deals with the main Angels.
    > Ace Combat Evangelion: Part 1 – Skies of Deception
    > Ace Combat Evangelion: Part 2 – Joint Assault
    > Ace Combat Evangelion: Part 3 – Shattered Skies
    > Ace Combat Evangelion: Part 4 – Fires of Liberation

I've also got some good ideas on how to translate our Angelic friends into high functioning combat aircraft, using the vast history of the Ace Combat series and their superplanes not to mention regular real world aircraft. Also, still not sure if I'm going to be using the real world or Strangreel for the setting. Still have to decide that.

Also, EVANGELION is now an acronym menaing...
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    Gyrofrequency
    Electromagnetic
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Postby Snow » Sun May 14, 2017 6:21 am

Very interesting, yet all the jets are identical. The in-universe EVA's are different, so why not make each aircraft different from another?
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Postby silvermoonlight » Sun May 14, 2017 10:10 am

Very much looking forward to this when it comes around.

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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sun May 14, 2017 10:16 pm

Snow wrote:Very interesting, yet all the jets are identical. The in-universe EVA's are different, so why not make each aircraft different from another?

Well, the in universe EVAs only really have minor differences (mostly facial structure). Unit-01 is the unique one in-universe as it is born of Lilith. The rest of the EVAs (00,02,03 & 04) all have the same armor arrangement for the main body. So as for my own aircraft EVAs having an identical structure in thier universe...
    > aircraft maintenance/repair is easier with interchangeable parts
    > aircraft performance is the same across all produced aircraft
    > no aircraft is superior to another
    > training for all staff is consolidated into one aircraft type
And for a personal reason, its the superplane from Ace Combat that most fit what an Evangelon could be in my mind.
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Postby Snow » Mon May 15, 2017 12:40 am

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:Well, the in universe EVAs only really have minor differences (mostly facial structure). Unit-01 is the unique one in-universe as it is born of Lilith. The rest of the EVAs (00,02,03 & 04) all have the same armor arrangement for the main body. So as for my own aircraft EVAs having an identical structure in thier universe...
    > aircraft maintenance/repair is easier with interchangeable parts
    > aircraft performance is the same across all produced aircraft
    > no aircraft is superior to another
    > training for all staff is consolidated into one aircraft type
And for a personal reason, its the superplane from Ace Combat that most fit what an Evangelon could be in my mind.


I see, yet you could make them all be specialised variants of the same platform, ie. the EA-18G variant of the F-18F-platform. But it is your fanfic, not mine.
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Postby amitakartok » Mon May 15, 2017 4:36 am

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:And for a personal reason, its the superplane from Ace Combat that most fit what an Evangelion could be in my mind.


Which plane are you gonna be using? The Morgan?
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Mon May 15, 2017 5:14 am

amitakartok wrote:Which plane are you gonna be using? The Morgan?

No, the ADF-01 and it's laser aren't going to be an Evangelion
DarkBluePhoenix wrote:To go through with this properly, I decided to pick one of the super-fighters from Ace Combat: Skies of Deception, the XFA-33 Fenrir. ...and is in the back of the fighter group in the pic below.
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But those other superplanes in the first pic will be making an appearance at some point as various Angels.
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Postby amitakartok » Mon May 15, 2017 8:50 am

I'm having trouble seeing why the Fenrir is your best pick for an Eva stand-in. I said the Morgan because the ADFX-02's ECM field is the closest thing to having an AT-field.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Tue May 16, 2017 2:52 pm

amitakartok wrote:I'm having trouble seeing why the Fenrir is your best pick for an Eva stand-in. I said the Morgan because the ADFX-02's ECM field is the closest thing to having an AT-field.

The Falken, while an exceptional aircraft, is just a fighter (officially classified as such) while the Fenrir is a multipurpose aircraft with VTOL abilities (the middle engine rotates down), has the ability to cloak (tactical camouflage) and the capability to carry this, a weapon with devastating effects. The A.T. Field I do have a workaround for that I'll reveal in story as well, and the Falken was considered for its ECM field, but the EVAs being multipurpose aircraft seemed more appropriate.

Also, with the TLS from the Falken, the EVAs would have things far too easy, just shoot "la laser" and the Angel is gone.

The Falken will be making an appearance as an Angel (not Ramiel however), so the plane's not being left out completely.
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Postby amitakartok » Tue May 16, 2017 6:03 pm

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:Also, with the TLS from the Falken, the EVAs would have things far too easy, just shoot "la laser" and the Angel is gone.


Not quite. Remember that the TLS is primarily an anti-bomber/standoff-range first blood weapon, not dogfighting armament. If you miss that standoff-range shot, you won't have time for another before you're in a turning dogfight where the other guy won't stay still on your screen for you to line up a beam anymore.

Unless you have the ADFX-02's turreted version, which is godly.

That reminds me, are you familiar with HAWX? That game's QAAM equivalent could be launched even at targets on your six. If you were to give that to whatever Angel is the stand-in for Mobius 1's Raptor, the Evas are in for the fight of their lives. :devil:
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed May 17, 2017 8:29 am

amitakartok wrote:Remember that the TLS is primarily an anti-bomber/standoff-range first blood weapon, not dogfighting armament. If you miss that standoff-range shot, you won't have time for another before you're in a turning dogfight where the other guy won't stay still on your screen for you to line up a beam anymore.


Well, the turreted version is the definition of hax, but in both handheld games (especially in Joint Assault), I was able to effectively use the the TLS as a dog fighting and ground assault weapon by upgrading the Falken's maneuverability, plus in the missions "Operation X" and "Ace of Aces" in Joint Assault the Z.O.E. ace in each mission really loved shooting it around, pain in the damn ass really. That's why I see the ADF-01 as more of an Angel than Evangelion, it's a bitch to kill.

Yeah, I've seen some trailers for HAWX, but never played it, but that weapon certainly sounds interesting... that would make for a highly unconventional fight. I'll have to research that.


Also, changing the prequel title from "The Unsung War" to "Skies Unknown" as it sounds better.
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Postby jcmoorehead » Wed May 17, 2017 10:56 am

Never completed it but the little I did play of HAWX was very good. Seemed to review well as well.

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Postby amitakartok » Wed May 17, 2017 12:05 pm

Story can't hold a candle to Ace Combat, though.

Though I have to admit, that "enemy jamming makes you lose missile lock after .5 seconds" mechanic in one level was interesting.
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