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Postby hui43210 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:55 pm

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-b ... ss/.108942

how much progress, who's to say, but there's no longer any doubt that it's production now. Granted, I believe Anno has already said as much.

Edit: The article said the interview took place in October, I don't know if it's been made public until now, maybe I just missed it.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:23 pm

Wonderful news! Anno clearly did not waste any time between finishing Shin Godzilla & getting to the last film!

As long as no disaster befalls, if it has an equal physically production length as the previous three entries then we could expect the film to be released within 12 to 18 months.

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Postby TheFriskyIan » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:10 pm

I'd argue it's been in production for a while. Even with Anno being in a depressive state, the idea that everyone at Khara was twiddling their thumbs until he got back would be silly; especially considering he mentioned at a college campus that he already had a rough draft of the script finished meaning he was working on it before news of his depression hit us. I also doubt Khara was still doing nothing while he was making Shin Godzilla. Although they've been rather silent about the progress they've made and I'm sure Godzilla an his depressive episode did slow things down, there isn't much of anything else to keep the people at Khara busy all this time other than working on this.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:30 pm

Oh of course. He spent three years on Shin Godzilla & it's myopic to believe there weren't times during production he turned his attention towards Final whether it be the script or actual storyboards. And of course a lot of the pre-production elements for the film have probably been finished for a while. I.E. A year ago Anno might have said something like "In Final we are going to see Evangelion Unit 10, a new Angel, a new version of Unit 01, etc etc. Please design me these. Also a new plugsuit for Shinji." And so on & so forth. I do feel Final is quite far along in production.

I'm just being conservative in my estimations so I can be pleasantly surprised when/if they announce a release date far far sooner than we expect.

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Postby pwhodges » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:06 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:there isn't much of anything else to keep the people at Khara busy all this time other than working on this.

There was Japan Animator Expo; and they've had credits on other studios' works.
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Postby The Cruel » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:37 pm

Is it really happening? And this news of all times came out on the 4th anniverssary of 3.0! I would be more convinced if I see a real teaser or trailer. And I don't want to make the same mistake people did with the ending of NGE years ago: having expectations. It' would be a pain in the ass if I do so. The only thing I expect from 3.0+1.0 is that it's the last film and that it' ll end for good and I get over with, because how 3.0 was.
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Postby Ray » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:42 pm

Well at least we know something is happening.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:00 pm

Not to say it'd be nice if we had some type of teaser, but it's being worked on is always good to know.

News of this movie would be great traffic to the site again. In the future I'd image to see all kinds of EGF users popping back up. Including myself, but I've just been busy.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:26 pm

Awesome news! It's really sad to hear that Honda's having difficulty drawing. Age takes its toll on everyone eventually. :/
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Postby mastafishere » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:54 pm

I relented and watched cam rips for the other ones. Hell, 2.0 didn't even have subtitles and I watched it side by side with another website that gave a summary of what all the dialogue was. This time, I'm waiting all the way to the blu ray release + English subtitles. Heck, i might even wait for the region free hong kong versions with english subtitles if they give us a date before the Japanese blu ray leaks. i know that adds at least another 6 months to whats sure to be at least a year or two from now, but this is the last Eva movie, possibly ever. It's going to be tough, but I'm going to try my best to bear through it.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:58 pm

I'd imagine when Final gets released in Japan we wouldn't have to wait too long to see it in theaters across the globe. At least in the US for sure.

The recent infrastructure of Japanese anime/releases playing in US theaters closely after release is so new that it wasn't even around when 3.0 was released in 2012. Over the past few years things like the new Dragonball Z film, the live action Attack on Titan movies, all three Kizumongatari entries & even Hideaki Anno's own Shin Godzilla have received theatrical runs a mere couple months after their domestic Japanese release. I don't know what were the behind-the-scenes reasons for 3.0's long delay (despite their statements to the contrary I think a lot of it was just Funimation waiting for the right time to release 3.0 to best affect their profit margins) but I don't imagine there will be such a long wait for Final.

Shin Godzilla got a US release two & a half months after the theatrical release. By Funimation. Sure the Bluray release is ages off - that discussion can't statt until Toho decides to talk about releasing the film on home video - but the movie was readily available not long after the Japanese release. I have to imagine Funimation has already broached the concept with Khara of doing special theatrical screenings of Final in the US once the film completed.

I'm pretty positive whenever Evangelion: Final gets released in Japan, there will be a chance to see it on the big screen in the US no more than two or three months later.

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Postby hui43210 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:16 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I'm pretty positive whenever Evangelion: Final gets released in Japan, there will be a chance to see it on the big screen in the US no more than two or three months later.


I really hope it works out this way this time. It would make up for the fact that it took 4 damn years to put 3.0 on Blu ray!
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Postby mastafishere » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:20 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I'd imagine when Final gets released in Japan we wouldn't have to wait too long to see it in theaters across the globe. At least in the US for sure.

The recent infrastructure of Japanese anime/releases playing in US theaters closely after release is so new that it wasn't even around when 3.0 was released in 2012. Over the past few years things like the new Dragonball Z film, the live action Attack on Titan movies, all three Kizumongatari entries & even Hideaki Anno's own Shin Godzilla have received theatrical runs a mere couple months after their domestic Japanese release. I don't know what were the behind-the-scenes reasons for 3.0's long delay (despite their statements to the contrary I think a lot of it was just Funimation waiting for the right time to release 3.0 to best affect their profit margins) but I don't imagine there will be such a long wait for Final.

Shin Godzilla got a US release two & a half months after the theatrical release. By Funimation. Sure the Bluray release is ages off - that discussion can't statt until Toho decides to talk about releasing the film on home video - but the movie was readily available not long after the Japanese release. I have to imagine Funimation has already broached the concept with Khara of doing special theatrical screenings of Final in the US once the film completed.

I'm pretty positive whenever Evangelion: Final gets released in Japan, there will be a chance to see it on the big screen in the US no more than two or three months later.


I hope you are right!!

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Postby cyharding » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:25 pm

I am of two minds on this. One is I'm glad that we are hearing some positive news on the last movie. But at the same time, I feel that everything is going too fast for my tastes, that they could slow things down a bit.

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:47 am

I don't think it's going fast at all. Seems just about right actually. That is of course pending any un-announced projects.

Anno just wrapped up Gojira, had a little rest, probably did some fixes for the BD release and maybe a bit more rest after that.

Meanwhile, Khara itself is busy working on full length Dragon Dentist. Assuming things work as they usually do they'll be busy with it up until the actual premier in February.

Interesting thing to note about Honda himself (who is btw the Chief Animation Director on Eva at this point and not a mere animator as some reports call him): he was seen in the recent NHK special working with Hayao Miyazaki, trying to help him figure out what he wants to do with Boro the Caterpillar. That special was filmed over the past two years almost so we know what other work Honda was busy with. As various news outlets reported that special revealed that Miyazaki chose to make Boro a full length movie. The rough schedule he showed to producer Toshio Suzuki was planning and storyboarding up to midway in 2017, at which point full production starts with a 2019-ish release date.

Given all of the above and assuming Khara has been slow-cooking the pre-production for the last movie this whole time and this is what Anno will be busy with until the animation staff are freed up, the most disgustingly optimistic guess we can make is that full animation production for it will start in February for a potential end of the year release. That would actually fall right in the middle of Anno's 2014 "joke" about the last movie taking 4-6 years. If they take their time tweaking the hell out of it (which I'm 100% for) then we'll see it at the end of that 4-6 year range. This is the last movie after all better be sure you're happy with what you started all those years ago.

That would fit Miyazaki's schedule too with khara animators jumping onto Boro afterwards, like they did with The Wind Rises and Marnie.

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Postby SoryuUberAlles » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:22 am

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote: That would fit Miyazaki's schedule too with khara animators jumping onto Boro afterwards, like they did with The Wind Rises and Marnie.


If you watch the Kingdoms of Dreams and Madnesss documentary it's pretty clear Hayao really actually likes Anno, too. They seem like such different people.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:30 am

View Original PostSoryuUberAlles wrote:If you watch the Kingdoms of Dreams and Madnesss documentary it's pretty clear Hayao really actually likes Anno, too. They seem like such different people.



Miyazaki's known for a very long time that Anno is a very gifted animator, and Anno doesn't seem the type that would be an asshole about it. It's basically been a 30+ year long mentor/student relationship.
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Postby cyharding » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:53 pm

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:I don't think it's going fast at all. Seems just about right actually. That is of course pending any un-announced projects.

If you say so. I still hope though that it's not ready before the second half of 2018.

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Postby robersora » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:28 am

The actual news is, that we can now be more positive, that the movie will actually have hand-drawn parts in it.
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Postby Rosenakahara » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:50 am

FUCKING FINALLY

Ok let out a few years worth of "where the fuck is Final"
Now to wait about......3 years.
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