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Conrad Gray Adam

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: Fics with a larger view of the NGE world |
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The political intrigue in NGE is mostly muted (Kaji being a spy and investigator from Japan's ministry, a major company trying to create a rival robot) until the end. However, I've always found Eva's realism to be a bit lacking, or at least undeveloped, in the series. Yes, you'd give the people trying to save the world a lot of power, but other than references to the other NERVs, it seems like NERV-Japan had the lion's share of responsibility.
Another thing deals with the ramifications of the Second Impact. Since it killed off most of the world's population and caused the survivors to be united under a joint leadership, certainly most of the world gives a U.N. a blank check to do what they want. But on the other hand, I've also found it odd that the great powers would allow them to go ahead with their plans, not to mention with all the psuedomystic blasphemous stuff being developed.
Either way, has anyone read any fics that shows the world of NGE at large, beyond Tokyo-3? And maybe depicts the political and cultural realities of what Evangelion would be like? It doesn't have to be boring; after all, Ender's Game was about a bunch of gifted children saving the world and manipulated by adults, and there was a political backstory to it that was later developed in the Shadow series of sequels.
Some I've read include:
Eva 2055- A very well-written future fic about the post-Third Impact world. Lots of ACCs, and they're not bad at all.
HERZ- Also post-Third Impact, the author centered around his studies in political science, I think. Both of these stories have in common the ideas that NERV has become an anti-terrorist organization, and that the Children have grown up and are no longer piloting. They also have anti-UN, anti-Eva groups involved, which is cool because it would only be natural that after the Angels are gone there are people with political and religious reasons to oppose NERV and its superiors.
Evangelion: International- Taking place after the attack by the Ninth Angel, this story has the Angel attacks occurring outside Japan, and the Evas having to mobilize to go there, leading to conflicts among the nations.
Children of an Elder God also has elements of realism in the latter chapters, when NERV is involved against Angel attacks abroad.
Symphony for the Devil- This story is actually a darkfic set after Third Impact, and concentrates on what happened to each of the characters. However, it also mentions NERV becoming an anti-terrorist force that's against the development of Evas, and stops any groups from developing them. |
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Mr. Tines Administrator


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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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NGE is really about the people; the rest of their world is really just a canvas against which they strut their hour. You could write side-stories, but once you're away from the honey-trap under Tokyo-3, it could be any world spanning disaster/alien invasion setting, and little if anything would need to be changed aside from names and dates.
Sahaqiel could very well have... Well, I'll let Asuka have a view on the subject
| Quote: | The anomaly drifted silently in the late afternoon sky over Tokyo-3, like a zebra-striped balloon, or, Asuka thought, an illustration of some theorem concerning tensor fields on S2 topology.
“All units keep pace with the target,” Misato ordered. As if they didn't know where it would finally end up — somewhere over the centre of the city, ready to ooze, drill, burn or something along those lines, down into the geofront. Even if it wasn't showing Angel signatures, it certainly wasn't of human origin — and Ockham's Razor suggested that there could only be one conclusion.
But why here, why always NERV HQ? What drew them here like moths to a flame? Like the last Angel — that could have thrown itself at Kolkata or Mexico City or somewhere and killed tens of millions, disrupted the lives of hundreds of millions. And she might have actually had the chance to round out that lie about travelling the world.
Or maybe it's not such a bad thing that they come to us, she thought, as she reached the extent of one power umbilical, and had to pause to switch to the next. They'd've had to do something better than a longer piece of string. Not that carrying around a massive fuel tank back-pack appealed to her either. |
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Conrad Gray Adam

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I know, I know. However, three of the fics I've listed above are post-EoE, anyways. And besides, the whole point of fanfics is to push ideas based on series to new angles and avenues of thought. I still seriously doubt that Evangelion is so introspective, angsty, and unreachable that stories can't be outside of the usual grief-weird love-emo patterns. That's one of the issues I had with the criticism of ACC use.
Then again, the majority of fanfiction for any series is crap, so perhaps in NGE fics it's moreso in relation to ACCs. But if there could be good, I dunno, Harry Potter stories with ACCs, why can't there be ones in NGE? Discuss here! |
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Tines wrote: | | The anomaly drifted silently in the late afternoon sky over Tokyo-3, like a zebra-striped balloon, or, Asuka thought, an illustration of some theorem concerning tensor fields on S2 topology. |
What are the odds that such a thought would actually pass through Asuka's mind? _________________ -- Rachel K. Clark (a.k.a. "Reichu")
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I shall file this under things that were never given much thought by the production team. -Anonymous_Evafan
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Conrad Gray Adam

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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Wouldn't that just be one of those nifty-looking but utterly meaningless readings that are whirling on the bridge whenever the EVAs are sync'ing? |
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Reichu Away From Forum


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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Conrad Gray wrote: | | Wouldn't that just be one of those nifty-looking but utterly meaningless readings that are whirling on the bridge whenever the EVAs are sync'ing? |
...... Come again? _________________ -- Rachel K. Clark (a.k.a. "Reichu")
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Shinji needs to be cool like Kaji and grow some melons. -Dr. Nick
I shall file this under things that were never given much thought by the production team. -Anonymous_Evafan
Farmer Hoggett knew that little ideas that tickled and nagged and refused to go away should never be ignored, for in them lie the seeds of destiny. -Narrator, "Babe" |
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Mr. Tines Administrator


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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Reichu wrote: | | What are the odds that such a thought would actually pass through Asuka's mind? |
That's the topology of a 2-D surface that is homeomorphic to the surface of a 3-sphere, rather than any ad hoc notation from Katsuragi-hakase's unpublished works.
I make the tacit assumption that her degree is in mathematics, that being the easiest to get through at her age, relying as it does on raw talent. _________________ Reminder: Play nicely My vanity publishing:- NGE|blog|Photos|retro-blog|Fanfics|g+
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Conrad Gray Adam

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NAveryW Insect Politician


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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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No, no, no, it's not meaningless! On psychographic displays, spaghetti = bad. _________________ "Today?... hmm... today... right... Um... I'm just gonna wing it." -Guess who |
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Conrad Gray Adam

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Apostasy. Shinji and Asuka go to Africa... |
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The Way Out is Through is perhaps the most believable post-3I world (assuming people come back) that I've yet seen... so yes, it's dark as hell. Much of the story revolves around the politics of new city-states springing up somewhere in the former Russia. _________________ "Here I am in the belly of the beast, and I don't even care. I don't even feel like taking a whiz on this. I used to DREAM of taking a whiz on this!" - The Monarch
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