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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:50 pm

View Original PostRei IV wrote:I would like to see Lilith/Giant Naked Rei in NTE animation style. I would like for Toji, Kensuke, and Hikari to appear in this movie. I would like for Shin-chan to open up to the former two and be the ones to take him out of his shell and give him hope.

Well we know thanks to an oversight from Khara that one of those three things will happen. (not saying which one in case you want to keep the surprise)
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Postby Rei IV » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:54 pm

I hope it's the one that's pivotal to Shin-chan's character development and connection to the REAL, post-Third Impact world.

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Postby Reichu » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:46 pm

View Original PostRei IV wrote:I would like to see Lilith/Giant Naked Rei in NTE animation style.

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Postby Rei IV » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:44 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Image
(Technically counts!)

Okay, how about a Lilith/Giant Naked Rei that's ALIVE and kickin' and NOT deformed and swollen (or spaghetti/noodle like) body wise, EOE style but in NTE animation (Although I'm not sure if if Instrumentality will require Lilith/Giant Naked Rei or if she will be the catalyst for it and Final Impact. Another thing I'd like to see in Evangelion 3.0+1.0: Instrumentality that doesn't require teh Rei. Hoping Final Impact doesn't need her either)

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Postby C. Smith » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:08 pm

This would be a bit farfetched but I'd like to see Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart (https://youtu.be/0IV7GapuKnw), or at the very least a Japanese-language cover of it be used for the climax (perhaps get Nana Mizuki to sing it).

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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:42 am

I'd like to see old Dr. Katsuragi get his real name mentioned at last, unlikely though that may be...and I hope he's named Akira! :kaos_akuma:
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Postby MuscleRobo » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:31 pm

View Original PostC. Smith wrote:This would be a bit farfetched but I'd like to see Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart (https://youtu.be/0IV7GapuKnw), or at the very least a Japanese-language cover of it be used for the climax (perhaps get Nana Mizuki to sing it).


Holding out for a Hero by Bonnie Tyler was actually a big number one hit in Japan. I can't go to the 80's bar in Nakano without hearing it at least once! It was the opening to a popular Rugby Drama.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:19 pm

And since the Michiyuki or the travel segment is the concluding section of the four-part Japanese Kishotenketsu narrative structure, which Rebuild seems to follow as much as the Jo-Ha-Kyu (see this old post) for a little more context), I think we'll see Shinji, Asuka and Rei Q traveling the wasteland while singing and chanting in the style of Noh drama! :tongue:

Jokes aside, the travel part of things is already set to happen with what Asuka said - she's going to take Shinji and Rei Q to "where the Lilin can pick them up" and there's been enough material showing them wandering the post-3I wasteland. All of 3.0 + 1.0 isn't going to be a travelogue for obvious reasons, but I'm pretty sure the journey narrative is going to apply to Shinji's story above all else.

Oh, and I'd like to see this conclude with either - (a) Shinji gunning down Gendo (for maximum pathos) or (b) Gendo realizing that he has loved and cared for Shinji all along but ran away from it, and chooses to give up his own existence so that his son can live in a better world. That'd be a far better arc for his character than saying "I'm sorry, Shinji" to the phantom Eva-01 about to bite him in half.
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Postby Reichu » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:44 am

Some variation on (b) is far more likely. Fuyutsuki has told us that Gendo will go as far as sacrificing his soul to bring his wish to fruition. We're not told what this wish is, but it's been forecast that he will sacrifice himself to make Eva-13 a counterpart to Eva-01. The likely outcome here is that the two will merge in an "Alchemical Marriage", but what will the result be? For reasons I need to more fully articulate in thread form, I think Gendo et al.'s goal is to break humanity free of the curse of "Original Sin" (whatever exactly that is) which we unfairly inherited from Seele's civilization, and create a purified and unburdened future for younger generations.

(This is something rather topical, given how the curse of past generations' behavior has finally caught up with us in real life, leaving the young and yet-to-be-born burdened with total shit while those responsible get to die ignominiously. Though, there are certainly older folk who would willingly sacrifice themselves to the gods if that were actually capable of undoing the damage.)

P.S. Gendo's heart's desire being "simultaneously become one with Yui AND receive the punishment he feels he deserves by getting brutally devoured by her as an Eva" is totally metal and also kinda hot and also totally Gendo, and I wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe a more explicit version of the same death.

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Postby SawItAtAge10 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:10 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Some variation on (b) is far more likely. Fuyutsuki has told us that Gendo will go as far as sacrificing his soul to bring his wish to fruition. We're not told what this wish is, but it's been forecast that he will sacrifice himself to make Eva-13 a counterpart to Eva-01. The likely outcome here is that the two will merge in an "Alchemical Marriage", but what will the result be? For reasons I need to more fully articulate in thread form, I think Gendo et al.'s goal is to break humanity free of the curse of "Original Sin" (whatever exactly that is) which we unfairly inherited from Seele's civilization, and create a purified and unburdened future for younger generations.


What I still don't get is where does the Key of Nebuchadnezzar tie into all of this? I mean, I get that 2.0 made it the replacement McGuffin fro Adam's embryonic in the ogival NGE, but like what is it and what's the big scheme there with that and overall thing that happened/is happening with the Impacts seen in 3.0 and 3.0 + 1.0?
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Postby Reichu » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:47 am

This is getting a bit beyond the scope of this particular thread, but this thread (start at the beginning, it has a table of contents) at least addresses the whole "what is the key?" thing. It's generally assumed at this point that Gendo will use the Key on himself before he enters Eva-13; see more here.

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Postby MirrorUniverseAsuka » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:18 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:use the Key on himself


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Postby UrsusArctos » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:43 am

Facetious stuff mixed in with more serious stuff -

Shinji's eyes turn permanently red and he gets to use eyebeams from his human body

Asuka's eye under her eyepatch works just fine, but it's blue and it can eyebeam people. Asuka eventually upgrades to get four glowing blue eyes and four arms.

Mari and Asuka turn out to share their mom, who we see in the photo of Yui and baby Shinji, making them half-sisters.

Rei turns out to have part of Yui's soul along with a part of Lilith's. Kaworu turns out to be the same - only with a part of Dr. K's soul.

Adult Toji, Kensuke and Hikari appear alive and well and give Shinji a pep talk.

Pen-Pen turns out to be alive too and gets a Keel-style visor. He leads an army of penguins (including a whole lot of his grandkids) and helps defeat Gargoyle-Fuyutsuki.

Fuyutsuki goes full Gargoyle and throws back the conversation he had with Gendo in the spacecraft in 2.0 - "If the human heart is responsible for turning the world into such a hellhole, it is the human heart that must be removed from humanity's future".
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Postby MirrorUniverseAsuka » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:57 am

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote: Mari and Asuka turn out to share their mom, who we see in the photo of Yui and baby Shinji, making them half-sisters.


I so want one of them to make a YOUR MUM! comment to the other juuuust before finding that out.
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