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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:43 pm

I want Adam or Eva nudity. Bare ass naked and fully animated. None of these sketchy half-second monochrome flashback scenes or reflections in windows. Show me the goods, Anno!
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Postby BC Baron » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:38 pm

Another timeskip. Maybe go for 115 years this time around. Everyone will still look the same due to Curse of Eva or some other throwaway line.

Misato trying to lay another guilt trip on Shinji in order to convince him to pilot again. Shinji's response, "Seriously? What are you, ON DOPE? Maybe I should just wait things out for a few minutes and you'll simply change your mind with no explanation. I mean, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three or more times, shame on the whole goddamn staff of writers! Okay fine, I'll pilot your damn monster on one condition. Here, try wearing this DSS Choker around your neck and see how the other half lives for a change!"

The AAA Wunder crashing and burning like the Ugly CGI POS that it is. For bonus points, with a greatly relieved Kensuke observing from far away on a viewscreen, deep within his reinforced bunker, and delivering a rousing speech in his newfound role as educator to the next generation of otaku about how that thing was never fit to carry the Yamato's jockstrap. Crowds cheer in support of the new Otaking.

Shinji finally pulling the plug on Gendo, just like Professor Fuyutsuki did to SEELE. Quick and simple; no technobabble required.

Lilith kicking Yui out of Unit-01 just before leaving Earth to embark on its multi-millennia journey to unknown, distant galaxies.

Yui: "But wait! How will everyone know about the human race long after the Sun, the Earth, and Moon are gone?"

Lilith: "Um, yeah... About that... I meant to tell ya. Turns out I can take care of all that by myself. Geez, get over yourself already and maybe spend some time with your kid. Smell ya later!"




Touji shows up in the finale to shake Shinji's hand.

Touji: "Hey, how the hell you been! Nice to see a friendly face again. Man, everybody else around here totally sucks. All they wanna do is start more impacts. They even got my little sister to sign up. You believe that shit? Especially after all of Sensei's lectures about how impacts were, um... ya know, bad for your health and everything."

Shinji: "Tell me about it. Listen, I'm gonna go make myself a sandwich. You hungry? Oh, by the way, here. I thought you might want this back." (gives him a white collared shirt)

Touji: "Huh. Will ya look at that. I was wondering what happened to that."
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:01 pm

@BC Baron: Why do you suppose Q has gotten such a large amount of acclaim from fans and critics?
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Postby pwhodges » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:01 pm

For daring to raise the subject of Touji's shirt - obviously.
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Postby BC Baron » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:08 pm

@Arcadia's legacy: Honestly, I'm not really sure. Every time I read a review that praises Q, it just rings rather hollow to me. This is probably a very bland response, but I guess in general all of the elements that the supporters of 3.33 love about it, just tend to have pretty much the opposite effect on me.

I'm not saying I was expecting some kind of artificially happy ending. I realize the original series transitioned into some rather dark and tragic events during its latter half, but I felt like the execution of those episodes was handled so much better and the continuity of the internal logic in regards to story and setting IMO seemed to flow much better versus the rather disjointed presentation offered by the Rebuilds. Outside of Kaworu, the series didn't really introduce us to any new characters beyond the mid-point and I feel as though that focus on the main cast allowed me to better appreciate their character arcs and stay invested.

I also bought more into the real world limitations placed upon the Eva's as they were presented in the tv series. That probably sounds kinda dumb when referring to a giant mecha show, but I liked the fact that they couldn't fly without additional support or operate indefinitely without an external power source. For whatever reason, when I see these new Eva's (as well as the Wunder) effortlessly take flight, shape shift, or whatever else they now have up their sleeves, it just obliterates my suspension of disbelief (not to mention, it sort of cheapens the awe factor for when Shinji/Unit-01 does something it's not supposed to be able to do).

Not sure how much of that makes any sense, but it's what immediately came to mind.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:03 pm

View Original PostBC Baron wrote:Lilith kicking Yui out of Unit-01 just before leaving Earth to embark on its multi-millennia journey to unknown, distant galaxies. (snip) Lilith: "Geez, get over yourself already and maybe spend some time with your kid. Smell ya later!"

Lilith is the sort of mom whose concept of child-rearing is to keep them completely oblivious of her own existence and snooze happily away, out of sight, whilst the kids brutally rape & kill each other and struggle for existential meaning. By your own standards, Yui is the saint of saints in comparison. :p

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:I want Adam or Eva nudity. Bare ass naked and fully animated. None of these sketchy half-second monochrome flashback scenes or reflections in windows. Show me the goods, Anno!

I dunno. Between gingiva-faced Eva-02 and hard boiled egg head, lard neck Mark.06, I'm not so sure I want to see the rest...
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Postby Shark Knight » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:13 pm

View Original PostBC Baron wrote:I also bought more into the real world limitations placed upon the Eva's as they were presented in the tv series. That probably sounds kinda dumb when referring to a giant mecha show, but I liked the fact that they couldn't fly without additional support or operate indefinitely without an external power source. For whatever reason, when I see these new Eva's (as well as the Wunder) effortlessly take flight, shape shift, or whatever else they now have up their sleeves, it just obliterates my suspension of disbelief (not to mention, it sort of cheapens the awe factor for when Shinji/Unit-01 does something it's not supposed to be able to do).

Not sure how much of that makes any sense, but it's what immediately came to mind.


I would have to agree with you on this. Q really was a mess, I understand Anno wanted to take rebuild into a completely different direction but I think 14 years was way too much time and things look too fantstic rather than credible at some point. I would have also liked the characters to develop more but Q really lacked development.

Anyways that's why I would like to see development in this new one. See the characters backgrounds, see them interact "which is quite fun" resolve their problemos about each other "hence what I posted on the first page".

View Original Postzlink64 wrote:An epilogue. Do that and I'll be happy.

This would be super really nice. Sort of like that drawing that Yoh yoshinari did "I am not sure if it was him really" that takes palce after EOE. I love that piece of art.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:01 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:I dunno. Between gingiva-faced Eva-02 and hard boiled egg head, lard neck Mark.06, I'm not so sure I want to see the rest...

Our little peek at Unit 01 looked okay. Unusual colors, but the shape looks right. Unit 13 seems to have a narrow face and an oddly large mouth.

This has come up in other threads before, but I really want to see Rei Q follow through with her character development and forge a new identity for herself beyond "that other Rei." To that end, I hope that there are some other defector Ayanamis on Wille's side. Rei Q has seen the darker part of her nature already. It would be nice for her to see other Ayanamis living outside of Nerv and realizing that she can live however she likes. And I really want to see Rei Cinq become canon somehow.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:15 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:Our little peek at Unit 01 looked okay. Unusual colors, but the shape looks right. Unit 13 seems to have a narrow face and an oddly large mouth.

Yeah, I guess the bandaged 01 head (...why the hell is it bandaged UNDER the helmet?) looks alright, though I bet if the bandages came off we'd get more gingiva face. (That is to say, there won't be any retractable skin covering the teeth, and instead we get the human-tooth version of a crocodilian. I feel sorry for the Evas' oral mucosa...) I begrudge them for changing Eva-01's pigmentation. The combination of lime green eyes and dark chocolate skin was so menacing and sexy. :fap: And blood-red enamel will never not be stupid. (Kind of destroys any lingering visual impact from the Eva nomming on something...)

Both 01 and 13 are able to dislocate their jaws, like they're auditioning for some kind of Angel-themed deepthroat porn. 13 got that job, obviously. I'd love to see that soulless wannabe choking on an esophagus full of Shamshel abdomen. I'll settle for the next best thing in 3+1.
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Postby Eliaskar » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:18 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Yeah, I guess the bandaged 01 head (...why the hell is it bandaged UNDER the helmet?) looks alright, though I bet if the bandages came off we'd get more gingiva face. (That is to say, there won't be any retractable skin covering the teeth, and instead we get the human-tooth version of a crocodilian. I feel sorry for the Evas' oral mucosa...) I begrudge them for changing Eva-01's pigmentation. The combination of lime green eyes and dark chocolate skin was so menacing and sexy. :fap:

I'm struggling to remember whether they showed Unit-01's face in Rebuild yet. Forgive me, i'm tired.

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:24 pm

1.0, when they're preparing for Operation Yashima.
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Can't tell if it has visible teeth or not.
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Postby Eliaskar » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:27 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:1.0, when they're preparing for Operation Yashima.
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Can't tell if it has visible teeth or not.

Holy fuck, i've never seen this. Thanks!

Wow though, Unit-01 looks almost cartoonish. He's like one of those toys which, when you squeeze them, have their eyes pop out in an exaggerrated way.

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Postby Reichu » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:37 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:Can't tell if it has visible teeth or not.

The genga for that shot is in 1.0 CRC (...really need to get those scans off my half-dead laptop already) and the teeth are exposed like in #19. That doesn't necessarily prove anything, since everything above the gum line is covered and the Eva could be frozen in a snarl. But neither Eva-02 nor the skewered Adams(?) from "Until You Come To Me" have lips, so Eva-01 probably wouldn't either.

On topic, for some reason I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with an epic beat-down between the MP Evas and the revived Failures. Maybe the latter could regenerate heads for the occasion, Mark.09 style.
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Postby Shark Knight » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:57 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote: I really want to see Rei Q follow through with her character development and forge a new identity for herself beyond "that other Rei." To that end, I hope that there are some other defector Ayanamis on Wille's side. Rei Q has seen the darker part of her nature already. It would be nice for her to see other Ayanamis living outside of Nerv and realizing that she can live however she likes. And I really want to see Rei Cinq become canon somehow.


Yeah I must admit that would be pretty neat to, sort of like when Ayanami went rebellious in EOE disobeying Gendo and stuff but this time her making herself her own identity rather than just be Ayanami Rei #(insert number here).

I would also like to see the return of the MPE from EOE - I dunno if they will do it since they are very iconic from EOE but- I feel like Unit-01 still has some unfinished business with them.

View Original PostEliaskar wrote: He's like one of those toys which, when you squeeze them, have their eyes pop out in an exaggerrated way.

hahahaha! You cracked me up.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:53 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:I'll take another "kimochi warui", but if you're talking like what's in Nadia -- oh dear gods, no.

It worked for Nadia, I think. But I simply can't imagine it working for Evangelion. I'm imagining it right now, and it's all total nonsense.

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Postby Shark Knight » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:55 pm

I may be going out of topic for a bit but is nadia worth watching?

Now that I think about it, I would like the movie to be the longest one so far too.
Say do you know where I could mail some of these suggestions to studio Khara?
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Postby cyharding » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:54 pm

View Original PostShark Knight wrote:I may be going out of topic for a bit but is nadia worth watching?


Short answer: Yes except for episodes 23-29 & 32-34.

Now that I think about it, I would like the movie to be the longest one so far too.


Me too. I'd like to think that he might make it as long as the last Space Battleship Yamato movie.

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Postby Shark Knight » Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:48 am

View Original Postcyharding wrote:Short answer: Yes except for episodes 23-29 & 32-34.



Me too. I'd like to think that he might make it as long as the last Space Battleship Yamato movie.


hmmm Kay.. I will give it a shot.
Yeah I also hope it's long.


So many good suggestions!
Alright, I want to send a letter to studio Khara but does anyone have the address? Also do you think it would be fine if I send it in english? Or is it better if I translate it into JP?
Help would be really appreciated but if it cant be done then no problemo.
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Postby Reichu » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:29 am

Don't bother. Companies can't accept suggestions from fans for legal reasons. If the studio responded to you at all -- which is unlikely unless you contact them in Japanese -- it would be with a standardized format letter that won't say a whole lot beyond, "Thanks but no thanks, and look forward to it!"

Here's their contact form, if you're determined to make an attempt regardless.
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Postby Shark Knight » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:54 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:Don't bother. Companies can't accept suggestions from fans for legal reasons. If the studio responded to you at all -- which is unlikely unless you contact them in Japanese -- it would be with a standardized format letter that won't say a whole lot beyond, "Thanks but no thanks, and look forward to it!"

Here's their contact form, if you're determined to make an attempt regardless.

Oh nice! thanks!
Well I think that at this point it's more about what would be printed in the letter and what words I would choose to put in there.
I also want to send them a copy of "The Last Unicorn" blu ray, going to see if they will ever give it a Japanese dub. Also I think they may like it since topcraft did it and some of those folks went on to make studio Ghibli after all.

View Original PostArcadia's legacy wrote:More allusions to Nadia/Harlock/Yamato

Ughh no more please, why cant eva just be eva?
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