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Postby robersora » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:17 am

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This is most apparent when comparing Wind Waker to Twilight princess.
Wind Waker still looks phenomenal, while Twilight Princess looks like garbage. Arguably even worse than MM and OoT.
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Postby zlink64 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:00 am

WInd waker was the best zelda IMO. Thank god they made it cell shaeded because that game will still look good 50 years from now. I think it's like the epitome of what they started in OoT.
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Postby NemZ » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:27 pm

That is true, more cartoonish low-poly graphics do still work noticeably better. I mean it still looks like crap generally, but the aesthetic lends itself to be more forgiving.
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Postby Alaska Slim » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:22 am

Had a hankering to listen to the Spirit Tracks overworld theme recently... got me reflecting on it.

The poster art sums up the game's conflicting nature I think: "We're off on a adventure! Where we'll be...railroaded"...

Since I like trains better than ships, because George Carlin, I went into it expecting to like it better than Phantom Hourglass. Instead, I have to admit that the free roaming of the ship in the former just works better, both as a mechanic, and for "Adventure!" themeing (especially after you get the crane). You also don't have to contend with constantly missing your turnoff. :doh:

The only thing I liked better in Spirit Tracks was the final boss battle, which I thought was epic, and... that theme. I also probably paid more attention to customization here than I did Hourglass.
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Postby chazthesilencer » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:32 pm

Invoke thread necromancy.

Year: 2018. Breath of the Wild is the Zelda of the now.

Clocked in “90 hours of more” playtime so far, according to my Switch profile.
I’ve activated all the towers, freed three of the beasts and finally earned a heart container on the second row. Still have yet to unlock all the memory fragments and haven’t stepped foot near the Goron settlement.

Enjoying the game immensely. That said, here are some complaints and whinings:
  • Upgrading clothing at the fairy fountains takes too damn long. Why do I have to select one item at a time? Let me select multiple/whole sets, dammit.
  • Bloody weather. Just because it’s raining I have to give up on scaling that mountain? Lame.
  • Rock-spitting Octoroks are the single most obnoxious enemies in the whole game. I'm just walking by the river, sod-off with the rocks...
  • I want to make use of Magnesis when I ambush a Moblin camp, drop some metal crates on heads etc. but the damn range of the ability is so pathetic I’m always detected before I can lift anything.
  • It’s pretty sad how the frame-rate drops as you walk around the Korok forest. Come on, Nintendo, this is your launch game and the console can barely handle it.
  • Why aren’t recipes for successful potions and meals saved in a list? Pretty obvious feature there that should have been included.
  • The "Blight" boss battles have been disappointingly uncreative. Shoot with arrows, whack them with the melee weapon... not much more to it.
  • My blood boils when I create an ice block, jump over to it, undershoot the jump and plunge into the water, causing Link to dip just barely under the block and shatter the damn thing as he surfaces.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:37 pm

I am addicted to BOTW. It's definitely my favorite Zelda game, out of the 6 that I've played (this included). The sense of freedom is the greatest gift that Nintendo could have given back to the Zelda franchise and it's absolutely spectacular.

I've completed about 105 shrines, found about 150 Korok seeds (still have no idea wtf they're supposed to be used for), freed all the Divine Beasts, found all the memories, and got the Master Sword.

I'm still working my way through the side quests, such as the Leviathan Hunt.

You can bet your ass I'm going to get the DLC extension once I finish the game.

Also, androgynous Link is best Link. Everybody is thirsty for him.
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Postby Quadhonk » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:01 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:You can bet your ass I'm going to get the DLC extension once I finish the game.


You should get the DLC's before you finish the game. Especially Champions Ballad, it adds a lot to do. I don't think you need a completed save to play it. You do however need to make a new game if you want Master Mode active.

I was completely hooked on this game for a solid month last year. I'd probably put it even with OoT on my scale, can't decide which one I like more.
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Postby AdamMalkovitch » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:53 am

Breath definitely added life to the stale Zelda formula (seriously, Ocarina, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess are just LttP with different mechanics), but I hardly feel like playing more. I got my fill of the game through a GameFly rental in which I put about 50 hours (going through all four Divine Beasts, collecting all memories, defeating Ganon, getting the Master Sword, and doing a bunch of side quests and shrine quests, plus completing that little village), but that was all I needed. There's not really a reason for me to go back except for the DLC stuff. It was fun, and I enjoyed it, but I don't feel like dragging this experience out to Monster Hunter length.
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Postby chazthesilencer » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:06 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:found about 150 Korok seeds (still have no idea wtf they're supposed to be used for)

Look for Cuban Pete. I'm surprised you missed him, he's a big chap.

So… I took a casual crack at Hyrule castle (despite still only having freed three of the four divine beasts) and accidentally beat the game... huh.
And I apparently got the “true” ending, as people are calling it. I call it a post-credit scene, personally.

Bit disappointed the involvement of the divine beasts amounted to little more than a handicap against Ganon; surely they should have been absolutely crucial to defeating it?

One annoyance regarding the final boss fight:
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I had no idea how to break through that golden force-field protection.
Grasping at straws I tried Urbosa’s Fury- which worked… but I had to wait for the damn ability to recharge before making any more progress in the battle. Annoying.

Later looked up a strategy guide, and apparently I needed to perfect-guard the laser blasts?
Are you joking?
Was that ever hinted at?
If it had attacked me with slow-moving balls of magic I might have figured to knock them back, like in Ocarina’s Ganondorf battle.
But parrying light-speed lasers?
No.

One amusing thing happened during the fight- as the lasers started firing, I equipped my (unused) Guardian Shield++ which can “defect Guardian Scout beams”. The shield deflected a laser beam as advertised… and instantly shattered.
Very apt. Like the game was telling me: “Sure, it can deflect laser beams from lesser enemies, but this is the final boss, idiot. Don’t get cocky.”
Luckily- I’d already acquired the Hylian shield, and that served me well for the rest of the battle.

Freed the fourth beast afterward, as a somewhat sad formality; ticked off a few lingering side quests and that’s BotW done, for me.

Good game. My favourite Zelda game so far? Well, I’d say Majora’ Mask still carries that title. For starters - fulfilling the side quests in MM rewarded you with things more interesting than rupees 90% of the time.
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Postby Monk Ed » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:32 pm

My feelings on Breath of the Wild are... strongly mixed. Though I've played it for "240 hours or more" at this point, and am still playing and enjoying it, there's so much about it that irks me that I almost like it more as an object of study than as a game.

To wit:

* You get a huge number and variety of crafting components but barely anything to do with them. Outside of the occasional one-time use such as to upgrade a piece of armor or fulfill a quest, all any of it seems to be good for is selling or as interchangeable parts in a recipe that's going to consist of at least 4 of one type anyway. Why can't I use these gemstones and ore pieces to restore the durability of my favorite weapons? Why not at least the legendary ones so that their "legendary" moniker actually has meaning? The lack of a weapon upgrade or repair mechanic is a huge missed opportunity.

* Speaking of the legendary weapons, what is even the point of them? Except for the Goron one, they're all weaker than the random equipment I've been picking up from dead foes for most of my playtime. The only material difference between them and any other weapon is that they're more difficult to reacquire after breaking -- which makes them less useful, in every single way, than average weaponry.

* Likewise with the legendary weapons, "rare" equipment such as what you get from the DLC are invariably worse than the regular stuff, in this case because you can't upgrade them.

* The cooking/elixir mechanic is ridiculously simplistic and has its usefulness intentionally limited for no reason that makes sense. Only one effect at a time? Even The Witcher 3 didn't limit my monster-part potions that badly, and by that game potion-making had become an afterthought.

* You can't buy weapons. Of all the things that make no sense, this is like, top-tier. Where do all the random weapons you find even come from if no one is making or selling them? You'd think everyone would be living within ten feet of a blacksmith just out of sheer survival need with how quickly the weapons break.

* As chazthesilencer mentioned before me, the rain "mechanic" isn't much of one. Except for one intelligent use in the Zora's Domain subplot to enforce the game's only semblance of outdoor level design, rain serves no purpose other than to annoy me while I'm climbing.

* There's like nothing to spend money on. I've accumulated almost 90,000 rupees and I'm at a loss what to do with it all. I can't even buy tons of arrows because every seller carries a limited stock that takes time to replenish.

For all these gripes, I'm still, obviously, getting something out of the game -- otherwise I'd have stopped playing it. Champion's Ballad is giving me more of substance to do, but other than that I'm enjoying cruising along to the game's "open-world zen" and finding little ways to make my own fun as I try to cover every acre of territory in search of seeds and shrines and whatever else I can find. I've even seriously considered starting the game over just to have everything to do all over again, but the game isn't very replay-friendly -- much of the content, such as the shrines (both finding and doing them), are fun only the first time through.
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Postby Ray » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:18 pm

There's like nothing to spend money on. I've accumulated almost 90,000 rupees and I'm at a loss what to do with it all. I can't even buy tons of arrows because every seller carries a limited stock that takes time to replenish.


If I can make a suggestion go to the fairy fountain in the Gerudo desert. If you want to unlock all the fairy fountains you have to pay her a HUGE sum of money.
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Postby Monk Ed » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:33 pm

Already did that, AND upgraded everything available.
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