Khara specifically hiring animators for next Evangelion work

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Khara specifically hiring animators for next Evangelion work

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:35 pm

BUT, my disclaimer in Twitter stands where I think it's too early to tell if this is Animator Expo-related or FINAL-related. Exciting regardless!

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Postby Guy Nacks » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:10 pm

How soon before 3.0 did Khara start hiring animators? If this is for Final, maybe we can estimate a timeframe for its release.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:53 pm



Using a translator-

It translates to something that they are hiring for a "third phase", so in that context it seems to be on animator expo.

Edit- Then going on there website and using a translator on their first section, they say they are recruiting for the next Evangelion work.

So maybe both, who knows how long Season 3 of the Expo will be after Season 2 wraps up at the end of May.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:20 am

Dependent on how much pre-production has been done on Final so far - scripting, conceptual designs, etc - it would be best for Khara as a business if Anno was able to give them a ton of busy work to do while he's filming Godzilla 2016. I could easily see a great deal of business done on the final film while Anno is off making kaiju magic.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:41 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Dependent on how much pre-production has been done on Final so far - scripting, conceptual designs, etc - it would be best for Khara as a business if Anno was able to give them a ton of busy work to do while he's filming Godzilla 2016. I could easily see a great deal of business done on the final film while Anno is off making kaiju magic.


The director is supposed to overlook all the genga though. I remember seeing genga with notes and alterations by Anno.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:12 pm

Ever heard of technology?

Wes Anderson "directed" the animation of Fantastic Mr. Fox while he was off in another country making commercials & drinking wine. Steven Spielberg "directed" the animation of The Adventures of Tintin while he was off making War Horse.

An animation film isn't done by one man alone. It takes an army. The army doesn't need to stand around twiddling their thumbs until the director shows up. It would be better for the army to be kept busy in some regard - could even be doing CG animation - while the director is away.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:07 pm

Yeah, those notes and alterations can be made by Anno while he's on another set working on some rubber suit movie. If Spielberg can approve Jurassic Park music while on set of Schindler's List back in 1993, theoretically Anno can approve animation while being on the other side of Tokyo next year.

I say theororetically, though. I heard somewhere that many Japanese businesses still prefer using faces than emails, and animation isn't best seen in a series of faxes.
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Postby Dream » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:10 pm

Never used Xerox or whatever is currently used but on my experience pencil sketches (pretty much everything visual in anime before coloring and compositing) are downright unappreciable in anything other than face to face. Communication by email just isn't the same and many venues/subtleties of two-way feedback inherent to a process like animation filmmaking would be simply lost or become significantly more stale in any sort of electronic long-distance communication except *perhaps* cam/voice chat, but even then it'll still lose some things.

Specially for someone like Anno, supervising isn't just checking if the keys look like the storyboards and approving. It'll surely be a very fluid process requiring great engagement from him and the staff. That's leaving aside Eva's very particular role in Anno's life, Japan's tendency to prefer more traditional/natural methods or the fact they might well not know there are things like Skype.
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Postby Adaminator1 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:37 pm

This could feed into the theory that the animator expo would end in a 3.0+1.0 teaser.

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Postby Sachi » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:43 pm

Not sure how much this applies to animation, but in my experience collaborating with others on student music and film projects we would all have access to working files on whatever software we were using (in most cases, ProTools), and we would eventually get together to share our contributions and organize it into a finalized file to turn in. A lot of the work could be done on our own time, as long as it got revised into a completed whole once everything was brought together. While all the heavy work is getting done on the animation side, Anno would really only needs to poke his head in to review the results and give his seal of approval.
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Postby Adaminator1 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:49 pm

View Original PostSachi wrote:Not sure how much this applies to animation, but in my experience collaborating with others on student music and film projects we would all have access to working files on whatever software we were using (in most cases, ProTools), and we would eventually get together to share our contributions and organize it into a finalized file to turn in. A lot of the work could be done on our own time, as long as it got revised into a completed whole once everything was brought together. While all the heavy work is getting done on the animation side, Anno would really only needs to poke his head in to review the results and give his seal of approval.


I imagine they have some sort of pipeline for sending shots to Anno once they're ready for his review, and he can send them back with notes. It's not that hard with the internet.
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Postby cyharding » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:53 pm

What should also be kept in mind is that Anno has worked with some of his senior staff as far back as the late 80s, so does know these people and what they can do. He'd still have to give final approval on everything, but it probably wouldn't be as much of a holdup on his part.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:25 am

If Anno doesn't trust Kazuya Tsurumaki to handle some of the more day to day directing duties on the final Eva film while he's off doing Godzilla at this point then that is a shallow partnership. Tsurumaki & the other co-directors can do a lot of production work on the last film without Anno looking over their shoulders every second.

Meanwhile, as we argue over whether Anno can shoot one movie & handle a few sessions supervising another Sion Sono goes off & makes 6 full-length feature films to be released in one calendar year. I think he just made a whole new movie as I typed this sentence.

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Postby robersora » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:25 am

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Granted though, the kind of movies those two helm, and the personalities & mentalities towards directing couldn't be more different from each other. Sion is a creative working horse, spitting out low-budget stuff with a sticks or fall attitude, while Anno is a meticulous guy with a history of
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:39 am

A thought occurred last night that what if this "new Eva project" is some interesting (serious, funny, whatever) animated extra for the NGE BD/DVDs, though nothing of such an idea is mentioned in the Extras section, so yeah.

Would be so cool though!
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Postby robersora » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:51 pm

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:58 pm

All my money, if college-age Kaji makes inappropriate threesome/yuri jokes towards them--earning a well-timed slap on either cheek from them both :lol:
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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:18 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:All my money, if college-age Kaji makes inappropriate threesome/yuri jokes towards them--earning a well-timed slap on either cheek from them both :lol:

That would just make me sad. :lol:
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Postby shinhito » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:50 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:If Anno doesn't trust Kazuya Tsurumaki to handle some of the more day to day directing duties on the final Eva film while he's off doing Godzilla at this point then that is a shallow partnership. Tsurumaki & the other co-directors can do a lot of production work on the last film without Anno looking over their shoulders every second.


I just wanted to point out too that Anno is the "Chief Director" on these films and that for the first two Masayuki and Kazuya Tsurumaki are listed as "Director" in the credits with Mahiro Maeda joining them for the third film. So I imagine Anno must be involved with the creative direction of the movies more generally as "Chief Director" and I envision the "Directors" are involved with more of the nitty-gritty aspects of the animation.

Or does anyone have more information on the split of responsibilities of the "Directors" vs. the "Chief Director"?

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Postby Guy Nacks » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:23 pm

I would imagine that as Chief Director, Anno has final say on what goes into the film. He can correct storyboards if he feels they need to be modified and supervises vocal performances, but most of the actual animation conception and direction is handled by Masayuki/Tsurumaki/etc.

In other words, he doesn't work as actively as the other directors are with members of the staff. He simply fine tunes their efforts to adhere more to his vision.
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