"Until You Come to me" EVA SHORT FILM 4.0 HYPE

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition").
The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:52 pm

I'd bet that we'll see quite a bit of Rei Q in Shin-- but I really do hope that we get Poka Rei back. I understand that we have no way of knowing if we will, and that Rei Q is her own character that deserves a little development, but I'll be damned if I don't miss the old Rei, even if it's just a little bit.

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Postby Chroma » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:35 pm

View Original PostBlue Monday wrote:Video is absolutely gorgeous. Would love to get my hands on a high quality file - some of those shots are dying to be made into wallpapers.


My thoughts exactly. It was beautiful in every sense of the world - and a large number of the scenes are just asking to be high quality wallpapers.

As for the short's importance, canon and other-wise: I'm sure this is more about the concepts than actual canon happenings. Shinji's mental state, Rei Q's pondering, the different facets of Asuka - these are all concepts that have, and will, be explored. It's entirely possible that this stuff (the wandering, the split) happened post-3.0, but as for now it's probably not canon.

Stuff like the designs of the Adams and the skeletons in the FOIs are almost definitely canon, though - the short was made by an animator and presumably overlooked by Anno, so I'd assume the designs and concepts were approved by him.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:19 pm

I just had a thought.

What if the last shot in this short of Quantum Rei and Shinji walking away is the last shot in Final? Would make sense because Quantum Rei isn't called a Bookend Rei for nothing.

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Postby Chuckman » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:24 pm

I give Bookend Rei 50/50.

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Postby Asj » Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:09 am

Quantum Rei's absence would work pretty well with the Rebuilds' themes, I think. Anno said somewhere that he didn't mean for Evangelion to be one of the very fantasies he criticized, to be obsessed about, all that jazz ; "I created Mari to destroy Eva", 2.0 speaking for itself, etc. 3.0 is even more direct, clearly stating that looking back on the past leads nowhere, and well, I think you know what I'm getting at at this point. Bookend Rei is one of the show's trademarks, and Anno wants you to move on with it and stop claiming that Rei is your waifu. Trust me, my father works at studio khara.

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Postby robersora » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:15 am

View Original PostAsj wrote: Trust me, my father works at studio khara.


Wait what?? There is an insider? Does he know anything about CRC 3.0?

Also, trying to destroy the waifs-parade with just another cute girl doesn't seem all to logical to me, but oh well...
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Postby Jäeger » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:16 am

Funny thing is that in 3.0 some characters are looking back on the past when they act towards Shinji. I`m talking about Asuka and Misato :lol:
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Postby ElMariachi » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:00 am

View Original PostJäeger wrote:Funny thing is that in 3.0 some characters are looking back on the past when they act towards Shinji. I`m talking about Asuka and Misato :lol:

Which is kinda normal since so far they only have the past to look when acting toward him, since he completely disappeared for the past 14 years.
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Postby Jäeger » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:02 am

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:Which is kinda normal since so far they only have the past to look when acting toward him, since he completely disappeared for the past 14 years.


Yeah yeah I know. What I say is that others characters only look at "the boy who triggered3I" and both girls have personal grudges.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:51 am

^
Yeah, I kinda agree, Anno didn't give them a good balance between care and anger/coldness/hate/whatever.
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Postby ElMariachi » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:26 pm

^
He made it extremely ambiguous so it's impossible to tell for sure what they really think or feel, confusing both Shinji and the audience, which was exactly the reaction he expected.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:28 pm

^ And I love that fact about Eva Q!

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:07 pm

Huh, surprised this wasn't posted yet: http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3535.html

If I'm understanding all this properly:

Hayashibara talking about Until You Come to Me. She mentioned how she's been participating in these shorts alongside Yamadera since this short was just music ("Huh? What's this? What do you mean?"), and that streaming this short definitely seemed like it was towards Eva fans only.

She also discussed how Eva's seen at different angles at trade fairs (that's what Animator Expo is, no?) and that in her opinion, entertainment isn't always meant to be fun.

According to Eva Fan, based on Hayashibara's manner of speaking, another Eva short related to the main story (NTE in this case??), like a completely separate "derivative-version Eva" is possible. He speculates maybe it'd have to do with that 3D CG Eva-like mecha from the PV (the "Black Evangelion").

tl;dr:
    *Until You Come to Me is a derivative work (So...Peaceful Times too?).
    *HYPE for another eventual Eva short in the future? Personally, my money's on the last Expo short being a FINAL preview, if anything. But there could be at least 1 more derivative work Eva story, since 30 shorts total are planned.
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Postby Adaminator1 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:36 pm

I'm cool with Until You Come To Me being a derivative work and not indicative of Final or NTE. I'm also expecting a trailer at the end of the Expo! That's probably why we didn't get one on the NTV airing of 3.0.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:03 pm

It's very surprising to see that an interview was done on UYCTM.

This gives us a little hint on what is to come, and it seems like so far my prediction may be correct about the Black Evangelion being the teaser of the 3.0+1.0 teaser. Teaser-ception.

As I said before and still stand by it, it will likely be one of the last shorts to come out from the Expo or be the last short. Anno has said he will return to NTE when the Expo is done with.

@SSD Are we allowed to call dibs on making future threads? Because I think I should be the one to make the thread on the next possible Eva short.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:16 pm

Heh, thread-creation's pretty much up for grabs around here. :lol: I know I tend to post news as often as I do since I check Twitter a few times a day.

That thought did cross my mind too, though, about UYCTM being the only Eva short in Animator Expo. Wouldn't surprise me, but I hope there's at least one more on the way--even if it's not a FINAL preview.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:51 pm

^ At the very least it is nice to start to see other people besides myself acknowladge the fact that "Hey there is the Black Evangelion Unit-02 looking thing from the Animator Expo, wonder what it could be...?"

Also if it turns out to be the Final preview we are all hoping for, well then great I would've been right all along. But if it isn't and just another kinda spin-off thing about Eva, that's cool too. Not for nothing that CGI looks very realistic on par with the FF7 movie, something never before seen in Evangelion. Whatever it turns out to be I will actually bet money on the fact that it will be awesome in one way or another, Shin preview or not.

2015 is the Year of Evangelion, so we have a lot to expect from it in all forms and from NGE and NTE, as this first month has shown us.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:16 am

I'll just pull things out of nothing & say that 3 of the shorts will be Evangelion specific. One for every 10 shorts.

Sounds like a nice solid number.

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Postby skulkidcachi90 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:10 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I'll just pull things out of nothing & say that 3 of the shorts will be Evangelion specific. One for every 10 shorts.

Sounds like a nice solid number.


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Postby Shinoyami65 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:55 am

View Original PostAdaminator1 wrote:I'm cool with Until You Come To Me being a derivative work and not indicative of Final or NTE. I'm also expecting a trailer at the end of the Expo! That's probably why we didn't get one on the NTV airing of 3.0.


I don't mind it being derivative, although I would like to see some imagery being explained in interviews or re-used in FINAL (namely, what was up with those four ADAMS/NGE!Eva-01 with and the spears?)
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