Shinji likes space: 3.0/FINAL foreshadowing?

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Postby mechashiva » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:07 pm

First of all, that Asuka kamikaze jacket is bangin'. I totally want it. I'm a sucker for military-style clothes. :rolleyes: *keeps looking at the store* Oooh, lighters!

Anyway, I just wanted to speculate about something that probably is way off the mark and totally unfounded BUT:

so like I said before in another thread I rewatched 2.22 recently and something I latched on as a neat background detail was "Wow, Shinji's room actually looks semi-decorated instead of just looking like a nondescript room :lol:" but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.

With the start of the thread talking about the teaser image of the model, the only thing I thought really was "Maybe in 3.0 +1.0" they go into space? :uhh: " but then I thought Shinji's already technically been in space being absorbed in the EVA-01 with Rei. Still, I can't shake the thought Anno wouldn't put that in AFTER Shinji comes back to Earth. Maybe the Wunder can go into space or Gendo and Fuyutski have just booked it after the Third Impact to their secret moon base.
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Postby robersora » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:14 pm

View Original Postmechashiva wrote: but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.
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" but then I thought Shinji's already technically been in space being absorbed in the EVA-01 with Rei.


Yeah, that's lovely foreshadowing coupled with subtle characterisation, while being the most twisted way of fulfilling your dreams.

View Original Postmechashiva wrote:Still, I can't shake the thought Anno wouldn't put that in AFTER Shinji comes back to Earth. Maybe the Wunder can go into space or Gendo and Fuyutski have just booked it after the Third Impact to their secret moon base.


Well, at the end of 3.33, the moon's a mess, chilling on the earth's surface, so... :lol:
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Postby ElMariachi » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:49 pm

View Original Postmechashiva wrote:so like I said before in another thread I rewatched 2.22 recently and something I latched on as a neat background detail was "Wow, Shinji's room actually looks semi-decorated instead of just looking like a nondescript room :lol:" but its decorated with pictures of galaxies and stars. Interesting. And then in 3.33 when Shinji and Kaworu are looking at the stars, Shinji says something about looking at the stars and thinking about how big the universe is calms him.

If you look closely, there are also astronomy magazines on his desk, shelves and lying around, not Shinji likes the stars, but he's also apparently a big fan of astrology, which makes it strange when he didn't answered to Kaji when he asked him if he had any hobbies, because obviously he does have one.

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Well, at the end of 3.33, the moon's a mess, chilling on the earth's surface, so... :lol:

Well, there's the theory that neo-NERV's fortress flied through the Door of Guf during Fourth Impact and are now hidden on whatever dimension is on the other side, so WILLE will have to look for them in that dimension.
Since it's pitch black and probably without air, it's a little like space, except without the stars! :lol:
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Postby robersora » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:54 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:If you look closely, there are also astronomy magazines on his desk, shelves and lying around, not Shinji likes the stars, but he's also apparently a big fan of astrology, which makes it strange when he didn't answered to Kaji when he asked him if he had any hobbies, because obviously he does have one.


Well, maybe he doesn't know that having interest in something accounts as an hobby. Or maybe he is just ashamed of admitting he's into astrology/astronomy (a rather strange combination; though, in a world, where 14-year olds with issues pilot super-robots everything is possible).
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Postby mechashiva » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:12 pm

Well, I figure he doesn't tell Kaji about his interest in astronomy for the same reason I don't tell people I met from my Mom's job about all the stuff I like: I don't know them well enough plus I don't want to get judged for liking something :uhh: (like cartoons)

The moon's destroyed? Crap, how could I have missed that? :bigeyes:
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Postby robersora » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:42 pm

3.33 is so full of information of visual information, you ought to miss certain things.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:44 am

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That's not the Moon, that's the Black Moon, Lilith's ship.
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Postby robersora » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:21 am

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Whoops, I thought the moon was the Black Moon in NTE? I was convinced that fourth impact just fucked up the moon even more.
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Postby mechashiva » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:34 am

I still stand by my moon base theory. Is Lilith still up there?
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:26 pm

Lilith's separated head and body exploded (into blood? LCL?) when 4th Impact was starting up.

Anyway, this thread isn't about possible news right now, is it?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:23 pm

Well, it’s about “not actual news,” which I guess was created just so we can fan-gasm over Eva Shin stuff we see even though it might not pertain to official production announcements.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:41 pm

The purpose of the Not Actual News thread is started right in the OP:

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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:11 pm

View Original Postmechashiva wrote:I still stand by my moon base theory. Is Lilith still up there?

Lilith was never on the Moon, she always has been in the center of the Black Moon, underground of the Geofront.
If you're talking about the white giant with the purple mask we see at the end of 1.0, that was one of the ADAMs that was ejected to the Moon during Second Impact, it was later converted into Mark.06 in 2.0.
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Postby Dima » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:33 pm

Correct me if i am wrong but wasn't the original plan of episodes 25 and 26 to take place on a moon base?
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Postby robersora » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:37 pm

View Original PostDima wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but wasn't the original plan of episodes 25 and 26 to take place on a moon base?


I've never heard of that. Where do you have this info from?
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:51 pm

That may be a misreading of the original proposal

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_Proposal_%28Translation%29#Page_24_.28Episode_01.29

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In episode 24
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following that the final episodes take place in "the laboratory" (i.e. the GeoFront)
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Postby Dima » Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:10 pm

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Yep, that's the one. I mixed some info. For some strange reason i was thinking that the laboratory was located on a base in space.
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Postby xanderkh » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:27 pm

After reading this thread for a bit, I just thought of something that really clicked into my head.

What if, at the end of Final, Shinji becomes the monument in Eva-01, like at the EoE, in order to remove himself from the equation as an Impact Trigger, and fitting in the theme of sacrifice and atonement? That being he sacrifices his chance of having a life on earth, and leaves so that everyone else has a chance to live?

As in how, I couldn't tell you guys, but the act would fit the possible bittersweet ending that may come, and this time, he wouldn't be alone. He could for eternity travel the cosmos as a silent observer, but with Yui, Rei, and possible Kaworu with him, and he could finally be at peace?

I know it's just a LONG shot of an idea, but with Shinji's interest in Astronomy, it seemed like an idea that clicked with me, and may possibly be what Shinji wants.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:14 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0qbJAQhgk
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Postby LightDragonman » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:42 am

^^ Not quite sure most here would agree with that proposal (since it apparently goes against the themes of the series, as he's apparently giving up on life), but that would be pretty interesting.

Though, it does give me rather nasty flashbacks to The Matrix Revolutions, which I am so worried the last film is gonna end up being like in terms of execution and plotting. Heck, if the series does end like it, I'm gonna have quite a field day.

Case in point (if it does end like this):

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