End of Eva: Why not leave from the start?
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End of Eva: Why not leave from the start?
So at the beginning of the film we see that NERV has lost their jurisdiction and legal powers and been given a warning before being hacked by 5 other Magi from around the world. Now, I can see why Gendo and Fuyutsuki would want to prevent this and they want to go through with their plan. However, why wouldn't the Bridge guy's and all the standard staff just leave? Why did they put up a fight against the government when they've basically lost their jobs and jurisdiction?
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Because they learned that barely a few minutes before said hacking and more importantly huge JSSDF assault started, it's not that NERV didn't wanted to leave, but that they didn't had the time to leave.
Beside the Japanese government was manipulated by SEELE into thinking that all of NERV was trying to start Third Impact, leading to the order for the JSSDF to kill everyone on sight, no matter if they were armed or not or if they surrendered. For the NERV staff is was a fight for survival.
Which was the perfect distraction Gendo needed to start his own version of Instrumentality with Rei. And then Rei backstabbed Gendo and everything went to hell for everyone.
Beside the Japanese government was manipulated by SEELE into thinking that all of NERV was trying to start Third Impact, leading to the order for the JSSDF to kill everyone on sight, no matter if they were armed or not or if they surrendered. For the NERV staff is was a fight for survival.
Which was the perfect distraction Gendo needed to start his own version of Instrumentality with Rei. And then Rei backstabbed Gendo and everything went to hell for everyone.
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EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Better question: Wwhy didn't Gendo try and kick off instrumentality right after Kaworu's death rather than waiting around a few days for no apparent reason?
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Just after the hospital scene, the bridge bunnies are shown discussing their situation: they say that all access to and from headquarters has been restricted since they are on first level alert (and probably have been since the Kaworu incident the day before). Now that all the Angels had been defeated and their jobs made obsolete, the bridge bunnies had no idea what was going to happen to them or the organization so they had just been waiting for orders, and then the attack happened. Gendo likely kept them on first level alert because he was expecting Seele's retaliation.
Nope. there's two full day/night cycles shown between 24 and 3I kicking off, and possible more that were simply not shown.
24 ends at night
EoE starts at the same place when it's light
Rei wakes up and in the middle of the night and leaves her apartment
Asuka's battle is in broad daylight
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"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
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"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
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He had to fill out all the forms and get the budget requests in order before SEELE denied them and came to murder them all. There are rules, here. We're not barbarians.
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Time out, we need to wash the Eva.
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It's probably just final prep time. They had to recover Kaworu's soul, don't forget, and there were probably final adjustments that had to be made to Unit 01 before it was used for . . . whatever. A couple of days seems about right for that.
And of course, your question could be turned around: why didn't Seele attack immediately? They knew what was going on, so they could have dropped the hammer not one hour after Kaworu died. But they probably had similar issues, so.
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Even if it wasn't part of their plan, they couldn't get rid of Lilith at the beginning: she's the only existing source of LCL, which is needed to create, maintain and heal Evas as well as for the pilots to synchronize with it, without it sure the Angels won't be able to trigger the Apocalypse, but they'll rather wander all around the world rampaging everything on sight, and try to stop Leliel, Arael of Zeruel without an Eva!
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Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
Kensuke is a military otaku who, at one point, is shown creepily taking pictures of girls to sell. He would clearly fit right in as an animator at Studio Gainax. -- Compiling_Autumn
EoTV is a therapist, EoE is a drill instructor. -- Chuckman
Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger
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