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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:03 am

View Original PostNuclear Lunchbox wrote:Or Shin, with any luck.

Probably not. :lol: But does anybody know if the possibilty of getting a trailer or something at this festival does exist? As a surprise? khara has worked on this.


If he had said anything interesting about Eva it would already be summarized on the various blogs

Sometimes I feel like my definition of interesting is different to anyone else's. xD So maybe there is something for me.
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Postby riffraff11235 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:02 pm

I would honestly be surprised if we don't get any info on Shin out of this event. Seems like the perfect occasion to drop a trailer and/or release date.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:46 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:I would honestly be surprised if we don't get any info on Shin out of this event. Seems like the perfect occasion to drop a trailer and/or release date.


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Postby Ray » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:51 pm

We didn't. The biggest question is, why?
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:46 am

Because a film festival is a place to screen and celebrate existing works, not to announce or promote future work that can't be screened at the very same festival.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:17 pm

^ This.

Despite the image big studio premieres at festivals like Cannes & Telluride depict, Film Festivals are not the place to sell product. It's a place to celebrate film as an art form & celebrate the individuals who work within the field.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:15 am

On the other hand, there has been an announcement of future work sponsored by Anno being made at the event -- looks like he's giving a showcase to independent animators

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:14 pm

Interesting. Variety of all things has a little blurb about Anno talking about anime.

[url]http://variety.com/2014/film/news/tokyo-festival-hideaki-anno-warns-of-trouble-ahead-for-japanese-animation-1201339991/[/url]

I'm thinking once done with Evangelion, Anno is going to use the capital the films have brought to Khara to do his own thing for a few years.

Also this last paragraph is very interesting:Asked about the fourth and last instalment in his new “Evangelion” series, Anno offered no new info about production. “I am definitely doing it, but I have to do this sort of thing as well. I’m thinking that I’ll return to ‘Evangelion’ after I do something different,” he said.

Might Anno have a small side-project he's working on alongside the final Rebuild movie?

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Postby Xard » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:27 pm

My guess it would be producing this animation shorts program Tines brought up.

edit: yeah reading Variety article the context makes that interpretation plausible.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:49 pm

I'm down for more Eva if it's coming from Anno, personally. It's interesting to hear that he may have another project on the back burner.

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Postby robersora » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:04 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I am definitely doing it, but I have to do this sort of thing as well. I’m thinking that I’ll return to ‘Evangelion’ after I do something different,” he said.


Does that mean, he's not working of Final right now? Why does Japanese always have to be so vague...
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Postby Guy Nacks » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:36 pm

Oh my God, man.

Anno, just finish Rebuild already so you can focus on other things that you want to do and not have to be tied down by Evangelion any more.


But....the way he phrases this though, it sounds like it could mean that he's gonna return to doing another Evangelion-related thing years down the road.
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Postby Ray » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:44 pm

Maybe we'll finally get ourselves a Shinji Ikari Raising Project Anime.
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Postby cyharding » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:14 am

Here's the ANN article, which goes into a little more detail.

[url]http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2014-10-27/anno-jokes-that-4th-new-evangelion-film-might-be-4-6-years-after-3rd-one/.80406[/url]

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Postby 1731298478 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:29 am

Here is a quick summary/translation of Minna no Eva Fan's Eva-related notes on the talk (http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3372.html).

- Anno temporarily separated himself from Gainax to work on Eva. He felt, doing the proposal, that he cold not rely on other people. If Gainax had not done Eva, he had thought about doing it at Sunrise.

- Although they are presented in the form of interviews, according to Anno, the books Schizo and Parano are 90% written by him, including things said by the interviewers (!).

- There were still plans to do the promised all-new Eva film during the making of Death and Rebirth. It was planned to have Death and Rebirth release in the spring and the all-new film release in the summer. However, Rebirth ran over schedule, so they were forced to release it separately in the summer instead (as EoE). Because of this, and Tsurumaki's reluctance to direct it, the all-new film was shelved indefinitely.

- Anno had written the plot of this film. He says it closely resembled Attack on Titan. It took place in a mostly destroyed world, with human beings confined to an area protected by an AT Field. A single bridge connects it to the rest of the world, and this is where the Angels attack. Angels would be seen eating humans, something they couldn't show in the TV series. Also, there would be no entry plugs, but the children would be implanted directly in the wombs of the Evangelions and surgically removed afterwards. If they are not removed quickly enough they are taken in by the Eva and cease to exist as a human being. Elements of this are preserved in the new films.

- Every time Anno works on Eva he breaks down. The original Eva nearly killed him. The new project (http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3369.html) is by no means a diversion but something he has to do leading up to the next Eva film. He broke down again after he finished Q, but being married helped him to bear it. He was told by Miyazaki to persist to the end, so he will do so.

- He continues to work on Eva but it is very difficult. When he looked at the past schedule he saw that the time between films is increasing, from two to three years, and joked that if this pattern holds up the next film could arrive four or maybe five or six years after Q!
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Postby Ray » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:33 am

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:Here is a quick summary/translation of Minna no Eva Fan's Eva-related notes on the talk (http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3372.html).


- Every time Anno works on Eva he breaks down. The original Eva nearly killed him. The new project (http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3369.html) is by no means a diversion but something he has to do leading up to the next Eva film. He broke down again after he finished Q, but being married helped him to bear it. He was told by Miyazaki to persist to the end, so he will do so.


So it pains Anno to do this to Shinji as much as it pains us to watch it? I don't believe it, Anno is a human being too! I hope he endures to the bitter end like Shinji!

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- He continues to work on Eva but it is very difficult. When he looked at the past schedule he saw that the time between films is increasing, from two to three years, and joked that if this pattern holds up the next film could arrive four or maybe five or six years after Q!


Well that's . . . Disconcerting. I really hope that's not the case. That would just be too long a wait for my case! I'll be out of college by then!
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Postby Xard » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:54 am

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:- Every time Anno works on Eva he breaks down. The original Eva nearly killed him. The new project (http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3369.html) is by no means a diversion but something he has to do leading up to the next Eva film. He broke down again after he finished Q, but being married helped him to bear it. He was told by Miyazaki to persist to the end, so he will do so.

- He continues to work on Eva but it is very difficult. When he looked at the past schedule he saw that the time between films is increasing, from two to three years, and joked that if this pattern holds up the next film could arrive four or maybe five or six years after Q!


Goddamn. Also the Miyazaki bit was really moving.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:12 am

View Original Postcyharding wrote:[url]http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2014-10-27/anno-jokes-that-4th-new-evangelion-film-might-be-4-6-years-after-3rd-one/.80406[/url]

That hurts, Anno. Please don't make jokes like that. ;_; And I do agree with Xard about the Miyazaki note. He (Miyazaki) sounds like an excellent motivational speaker to have around, which may be exactly what Anno needs to deal with the Evangelion beast.

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Postby robersora » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:26 am

As always, thanks a lot, 1731298478! (what does this number even mean?)

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:- Although they are presented in the form of interviews, according to Anno, the books Schizo and Parano are 90% written by him, including things said by the interviewers (!).


wut. that baffles me. I don't own the books... but aren't there names given for the respective interviewers?
but... that makes the book's titles even more... fitting.

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:- There were still plans to do the promised all-new Eva film during the making of Death and Rebirth. It was planned to have Death and Rebirth release in the spring and the all-new film release in the summer. However, Rebirth ran over schedule, so they were forced to release it separately in the summer instead (as EoE). Because of this, and Tsurumaki's reluctance to direct it, the all-new film was shelved indefinitely.


Ok, that's the first time I read, that there were two completely new planned movies. I always thought, There only should have been Death and Rebirth. Now the death-threats, while still despicable, make more sense.

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:- Anno had written the plot of this film. He says it closely resembled Attack on Titan. It took place in a mostly destroyed world, with human beings confined to an area protected by an AT Field. A single bridge connects it to the rest of the world, and this is where the Angels attack. Angels would be seen eating humans, something they couldn't show in the TV series. Also, there would be no entry plugs, but the children would be implanted directly in the wombs of the Evangelions and surgically removed afterwards. If they are not removed quickly enough they are taken in by the Eva and cease to exist as a human being. Elements of this are preserved in the new films.


That sounds pretty awesome, if I'm being honest. Man, now I want an Attack on Titan directed by Anno. Also, damn you, Tsurumaki. Also, if those elements really did preserve, a Lilin-City becomes more and more possible.


- Every time Anno works on Eva he breaks down. The original Eva nearly killed him. The new project (http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3369.html) is by no means a diversion but something he has to do leading up to the next Eva film. He broke down again after he finished Q, but being married helped him to bear it. He was told by Miyazaki to persist to the end, so he will do so.


Oh, that's heartbreakingly cute. ♥

- He continues to work on Eva but it is very difficult. When he looked at the past schedule he saw that the time between films is increasing, from two to three years, and joked that if this pattern holds up the next film could arrive four or maybe five or six years after Q!


lol. Shin Eva confirmed for September 1st release in 2017.
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:53 am

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:- Anno had written the plot of this film. He says it closely resembled Attack on Titan. It took place in a mostly destroyed world, with human beings confined to an area protected by an AT Field. A single bridge connects it to the rest of the world, and this is where the Angels attack. Angels would be seen eating humans, something they couldn't show in the TV series. Also, there would be no entry plugs, but the children would be implanted directly in the wombs of the Evangelions and surgically removed afterwards. If they are not removed quickly enough they are taken in by the Eva and cease to exist as a human being. Elements of this are preserved in the new films.

Is it just me or does this make Yamashita's werewolf scenario seem a lot less insane than we've always thought?
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