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Postby movieartman » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:08 pm

View Original PostChroma wrote:An OVA would be very nice, focusing on just about anything that isn't Shinji himself. The world of Rebuild has so much to explore - especially after Q, and an OVA or an OVA series of 3 or so episodes to close things up would be lovely.

i 2nd this!
ive heard people complain that without Shinji, evangelion is pointless or wont work, bullshit, Misato, mari, Asuka, ritsuko & gendo during the time skip would be more than enough to make up for him.

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Postby Ray » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:59 pm

Considering a lot of the haters of the original series say the biggest issue the original series had was Shinji, an OVA or two season series without him would be exactly what they wanted.

Anyways, I don't really care either way. All I ask is that Final give Shinji a modestly happy ending, or y'know, at least one where he doesn't spend the rest of his life in a padded cell.

If its a happy ending, then maybe I'll be interested in this theoretical OVA/Spinoff series.

But if Final isn't a happy ending? I'm probably going to have to go on a long sabbatical from all things Eva before I'll be interested.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:25 pm

View Original PostRay wrote:Considering a lot of the haters of the original series say the biggest issue the original series had was Shinji,

The Western haters, Japanese audience tends to like him more.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:31 pm

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Yeah but that doesn't mean that there are not Japanese haters Good Sir, I imagine there has to be at least a few Japanese people who despise him.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:20 pm

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Of course there are also Japanese haters of Shinji, but they didn't seemed to me to be as numerous and vocal than the Western haters.

Well at least that's how I saw it.
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Postby pwhodges » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:39 pm

That's all right; they can watch Gundam and get the girls!
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:40 pm

Oh :lol: I took what you said to mean that there are only Western haters, sorry bro.
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Postby SEELE » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:17 pm

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:^
Who's to say that the Asuka seen in 3.0 isn't Soryu? :devil:


Ultimate revelation! *inception buuuurp*
Could be possible if you consider the bardiel accident. Omg LAS confirmed. Also the "Princess"-line from Mari makes even more sense. And Shinji is the space jesus super prince (consider Kaworu's line about the King of the Lilin - Gendou).
Okay ... we got it. I gonna try to summon Chuckman to get a affirmative "roger - roger". :devil:

I would want a Redeconstruction of Evangelion in 12 years. Something that revolves around Shinji/Misato or Shinji/Ritsuko (even better Shinji/Kaji) with an 66-years old Anno who wants to make a final FINAL Evangelion. Just like Studio Ghibli with Miyazaki (which looks btw. like old Anno). A spin-off? God please no. God. No. NOOOOOOO. Let fans do this shit ... they are better in writing this stuff. Really! If Anno don't direct it ... keep your fingers Studio Khara!

View Original PostRay wrote:Considering a lot of the haters of the original series say the biggest issue the original series had was Shinji, an OVA or two season series without him would be exactly what they wanted.
Anyways, I don't really care either way. All I ask is that Final give Shinji a modestly happy ending, or y'know, at least one where he doesn't spend the rest of his life in a padded cell.
If its a happy ending, then maybe I'll be interested in this theoretical OVA/Spinoff series.
But if Final isn't a happy ending? I'm probably going to have to go on a long sabbatical from all things Eva before I'll be interested.


Join the club! A 4-parts OVA about the timeskip or the time-loop mechanics ... arguable. Anno did already jumped over the shark with 3.0. We might get it? Happy ending ... that would be great yeah. *fanwank some shit*
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:40 pm

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I've got different explanation for the whole "Princess" nickname :devil:
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Postby SEELE » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:53 pm

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:^
I've got different explanation for the whole "Princess" nickname :devil:


I know, man. But i said if Asuka (even if she don't end up with Shinji in final) going to ship for the same gender. I will dedicated my life to KawoShin and literally kill myself (and not because im homophobic - but rather because it doesn't suit Asuka at all).
:chinscratch:

Everything except that. But Anno wouldn't suprise me at all could you believe that?

I might like the idea of a yuri-14yearsbetween-spin-off with this "Kiss my ass"-joke where Mari kisses her butt cheek. Haha, funny.

Actually that i think about FINAL. I got this strange idea that Anno actually really planning on make up some "eva-without eva spin off" or something like that. A spinoff ... god. We argue about Evangelion for soooo long ... and still it isn't over.
"Shinji repeatedly rises to the occasion, overcomes his own doubts and fears and puts others ahead of himself to the point of self harm. The situation overwhelms him. Victory does not define a hero. Intent does. He breaks at the end, but after inhuman, overwhelming, borderline comedic suffering." - Chuckman talking about Shinji as a hero
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:10 pm

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I know, it's amazing how long the fandom has been arguing over shit, it's mind boggling. I bet Anno's going to make it go on forever with Final not actually answering any of our questions. We're all going to be in retirement homes still arguing about this shit :lol:
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Postby pwhodges » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:53 pm

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:We're all going to be in retirement homes still arguing about this shit :lol:

Will you come and visit me? I doubt there'll be anyone else there who's even heard of it!
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:04 pm

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Of course Good Sir :pet: Of course
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Postby Yaywalter » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:08 pm

As much as I love Evangelion, I hope that Final is just that: final.

Mainly because Anno is too awesome to be stuck doing Evangelion. I'd rather see him do something different.

*fingers crossed for Rebuild of Kare Kano* :lol:

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Postby Reichu » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:37 am

I was fine with having nothing more than the original series. I certainly don't need more Eva after ENT is finished.

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:35 pm

You might not need it, but is it something that you would welcome should it be announced?

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Postby Ray » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:35 pm

Only if Final fails to deliver the goods.
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Postby Bagheera » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:46 pm

I don't see the point, honestly. Eva's about Shinji and his rocky journey to maturity; a series about the timeship has nothing to add to that, so it would be pretty pointless. I wouldn't mind it, of course, but it would be nothing more than an indulgence. As such I can't see Anno wasting his time with it.
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Postby ElMariachi » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:12 pm

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Well, from what little we saw of the characters of WILLE, there was probably a lot of very interesting character interaction during the time skip.
Just to see how Misato got colder to what we saw in Q, or Asuka waking up to discover that everything got turned on its head and learned to trust Mari, and the latter getting over her "lone wolf" tendencies would be very interesting and worthy that Anno taking time to explore it.

That would be a refreshing change from the story of "lonely boy with self-esteem issues learn to love himself and open his heart (and ears!) to others". Not that Shinji's story isn't interesting mind you.
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Postby Bagheera » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:14 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:That would be a refreshing change from the story of "lonely boy with self-esteem issues learn to love himself and open his heart (and ears!) to others". Not that Shinji's story isn't interesting mind you.


Yes, but it wouldn't be Eva. It would be a story told using Eva's props, but it wouldn't be Eva. Hence, no interest from Anno.

I didn't say it wasn't an interesting idea, mind. Just noting why it won't happen.
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