Generic Questions and Thinking about Rebuild series

airman4 · Postby **airman4** » Fri May 23, 2014 1:37 pm

Hi
If this thread is an error then erase please
I dont know where to put those thinking so i decided to create a thread where you can put generic thoughts and all about the whole rebuild series.

I'll start with that thinking (if i'm wrong then i'm wrong)
1.11 is the sign of the beginning , where the whole thing begins , story is set up etc
We see kaworu already and Seele at the end.Nice intro

2.22 is the sign of the Man , manhood or manlier stuff
It's very actionny and from a point of view story it's easy to follow, Shinji with vigor tries to save Rei (despite we know the ending following in 3.33 )
We can also see gendo more humanized and more centered about him
Mari and Asuka are saved in the end by Shinji

3.33 is the sign of the Woman
Misato , ritsuko , Rei III save Shinji from shit , the movie is by a lot of fans impossible to get (lol)
Mari is by far the best pilot in the movie , save the shit from 4NI and also manages to keep an intact eva 08 in the end (wtf the teaser of 4.0 with the eva 08 merged)
She saves the world therefore.
A complex begins between Shinji and Rei III in the neonerv quarters xd

4.0 what sign it will be ? the ending ? the child ?

What do you think ?

Sorry if it have been discuessed before , but i didnt managed to find it

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Fri May 23, 2014 1:55 pm

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Oh excellent idea, I've been wanting to do this for some time.

1.0 was Misato letting Shinji know that he was not alone.

2.0 was Kaworu stopping Shinji from advancing.

3.0 was Kozo telling him he can't fix it.

4.0 will probably be Asuka letting him know that he can Rebuild.

The overall theme for this film series is Forgiveness.

Dima · Postby **Dima** » Fri May 23, 2014 2:20 pm

ChaddyManPrime wrote:The overall theme for this film series is Forgiveness.

I would like this direction.

kuribo-04 · Postby **kuribo-04** » Fri May 23, 2014 2:21 pm

I see it as 1.0 being about how you think you are alone, but are (not), 2.0 about how you think you can advance but can (not), and 3.0 about how you think you can redo, but can (not).
I always saw it as what Shinji thinks at the beginning and at the end of each movie.

Kendrix · Postby **Kendrix** » Fri May 23, 2014 2:31 pm

Seems a bit like forcedly reaching for patterns to me.

Postby **Sachi** » Fri May 23, 2014 2:40 pm

Related thread: http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/15031/Patriarchy-in-Ha-vs-Feminism-in-Q/

Kendrix · Postby **Kendrix** » Fri May 23, 2014 2:50 pm

Something that instantly makes these discussions about how "2.22 is sexist because someone with boobs touches kitchen utensils" instantly hilarious is that they're only doing so because they are just repaying Shinji's favors. Of cooking for them.

Shinji simply happens to be the main character and have the plot centered around him in either of the movies; In Q, he's just less sucessfull/being kept out of battle situations at first. Mari and Asuka are also, among other things, adults.

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Fri May 23, 2014 2:56 pm

Dima wrote:I would like this direction.

It's the direction I see it going, it's part of the reason I hope it's a sequel.

@ Kuribo

I like that idea too

Great thinking.

airman4 · Postby **airman4** » Sat May 24, 2014 5:02 am

Sachi wrote:Related thread: http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/15031/Patriarchy-in-Ha-vs-Feminism-in-Q/

I see
well this thread is generic , the link is centered around 2.22 and 3.33 , thanks anyway

For rebuild as a sequel i dunno , rebuild is still very different from NGE , i dont know how they will wrapp the whole shit together, it sounds dangerous

For the movies , also i saw that since there is 4 Adams now each film could be tied around one of them
For example
film 1 Adam 1 : Mark 06
Film 2 Adam 2 : Eva 01
Film 3 Adam 3 : Mk 09
Filmm 4 Adam 4 : Eva 13 coming back from shit ?

ChaddyManPrime
You really think the world will be coming back as the beginning ?
Cause Shinji tried but failed , i dont think its ever possible now.

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:31 pm

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What do you mean Good Sir?

airman4 · Postby **airman4** » Sat May 24, 2014 1:00 pm

Sorry my english , restoring the world as kaworu implied in 3.33

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Sat May 24, 2014 2:59 pm

Oh okay and don't worry about your English, just take your time and keep sentences short, you are doing fine Good Sir :asuka_thumbsup:

The world can be restored like Kaworu said but I think one of the purposes of Rebuild is to show that the simple path is the false path, unless they show that using the spears together requires some tremendous amount of self sacrifice, I don't think they'll use it.

Rebuild is all about rebuilding, a magical fix it all is not rebuilding.

Another reason I believe Rebuild is sequel is because well, it's called Rebuild for a reason. I don't think Instrumentality was nearly as successful as we hoped it was, one day of group therapy, even if it's the best in the Universe, will not help you, it may get you to realize that you're fucked up, but Shinji already knew that beforehand.

Multiple group therapy sessions though? That would help tremendously, especially if each one was focusing on a different problem.

Ray · Postby **Ray** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:06 pm

Well. . . my thoughts?

If 2.0 was a party 3.0 was the hangover. Not something you want, but what you desperately need to bring you back to reality.

3.0 depressed me to no end. . . everyone Shinji knows and loves has all but abandoned him. The girls he loved are either dead or too old for him. He tries to make it right, and ends up proving everyone who hates him right.

Ugh. . . sad movie is sad. . .Anno put me through the ringer. . .

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:13 pm

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Awww bro, there there, hope still exists, have faith.

Ray · Postby **Ray** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:16 pm

I'm not the one who needs a hug. . . its poor Shinji.

DAMN YOU ANNO! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY Misato!?
:fistshake:

It was heartbreaking to see HER of all people abandon Shinji. But I guess 14 years of of unresolved hate and lack of closure change a person. . .

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:20 pm

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Don't worry, Shinji will get his hug and then some ^_^

And that wasn't a hug, this is a hug :huggles:

Misato's just upset, that's all, she'll eventually forgive him and then they'll Rebuild.

Ray · Postby **Ray** » Sun May 25, 2014 7:02 pm

If everything about Q was the same except for the 14 year skip. . .I'd probably be a lot more optimistic about Final.

ChaddyManPrime · Postby **ChaddyManPrime** » Sun May 25, 2014 7:06 pm

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Well they do need something to Rebuild from :lol:

Postby **robersora** » Mon May 26, 2014 3:13 am

kuribo-04 wrote:I see it as 1.0 being about how you think you are alone, but are (not), 2.0 about how you think you can advance but can (not), and 3.0 about how you think you can redo, but can (not).
I always saw it as what Shinji thinks at the beginning and at the end of each movie.

I like that idea.
The movie's titles are very blatant in what they want to convey. Same goes for the official Japanese titles. So I'm very curious about the final movie, as the title itself teases that ENT could be a sequel or repetition or continuation of some sort...

airman4 · Postby **airman4** » Mon May 26, 2014 5:22 am

Ray wrote:If everything about Q was the same except for the 14 year skip. . .I'd probably be a lot more optimistic about Final.

WHat do you mean ??

Generic Questions and Thinking about Rebuild series

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