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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:56 pm

I remember that there was some Lamp Festival that Anno went to, and he used to draw things related to the Eva films. When was the last Lamp Festival? Didn't he draw anything this time?
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:07 pm

15 days ago

http://forum.evageeks.org/post/657831/4th-Film-Info-READ-OP-Speculation/#657831
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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:12 pm

Thank you very much! I don't know why, but I always ignore the threads marked as sticky without noticing.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:32 pm

New year, new festival lamp.

"EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 etc."???

http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-3201.html

Eva Fan says in the article he'll update later with more news (as he finds out more, I'd assume).

But if Anno's saying NTE really is a self-contained loop, or (even worse) the September 6th updated Next Time Preview for Final will be past NTE clips, I'll....! Complain loudly.

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Postby CJD » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:42 pm

Translation please?

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:But if Anno's saying NTE really is a self-contained loop


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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:56 pm

What's this?

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Postby ZapX » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:59 pm

無任原点 translates to something like "no beginning" or "without origin".

EDIT: Turns out it's 無在 ("no location" or "nonexistence"). So, 無在原点 = something like "Nonexistent origin".
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Postby Guy Nacks » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:10 pm

Anno wrote:"EVANGELION:3.0+1.0 etc."


THAT MOMENT WHEN Shinji GETS TRANSPORTED IN TIME BACK TO 1.0.

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This seems like Anno's signifying that 3.0 and 1.0 have some common element or theme that will be touched on in FINAL. Or it could be that Anno can do mathematical wizard tricks.


The "etc." is really just teasing us with the Sequel Theory, now is it?
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:18 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:This seems like Anno's signifying that 3.0 and 1.0 have some common element or theme that will be touched on in FINAL.


Both are new beginnings for Shinji...
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:19 pm

1.0 is there because YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE must be repeated after Shinji was alienated in Q.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:26 pm

Does this mean the fourth Eva film will be titled:

Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 : You Something (Not) Something

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Postby hui43210 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:32 pm

Why Anno? Anno why? What are ya doing Anno? What does it mean Anno? Where are you taking me?! Were are you THROWING ME!
Is the 3.0 spoiler policy gone?.... Cool, then I'm nominating myself as EvaGeeks 1# Sakura Suzuhara fan/nerd.

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:32 pm

rummaging through electornic dictionaries
原点 げんてん genten (n) origin (coordinates) / starting point

so
無 is a negative, zero, nothing.

任 is a status indicator, in the context of being in a position, having obligations and/or duty

so 無任原点 is probably a very fancy way (and we know Anno and co. looooove kanjispam) of being lost. Both physically and mentally in Shinji's case at the end of Q: He's wondering in the desert being dragged by Asuka after having lost all purpose in life.

Combine that with the last post: +1.0 = YOU ARE (NOT) ALONE (and possibly YOU CAN (NOT) ADVANCE) and what you get is Shinji's exact position and expectations for the start of the final movie.

No need to invoke the still completely baseless loop/sequel nonsense :tongue:
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Postby CJD » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:34 pm

View Original PostNuclear Lunchbox wrote:What's this?


That, my friend, is the happening chart. Perhaps you'll remember this variant from November 17th, 2012?

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Fortunately for you, we're only on phase 3 right now. It's not too late to stop it. You only have to listen! Most of all, though, don't become like this guy:

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:No need to invoke the still completely baseless loop/sequel nonsense :tongue:


He refuses to listen. He's going to be a whole load of buttmad when loop theory is confirmed, at which point the only correct response will be "Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose."

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:THAT MOMENT WHEN Shinji GETS TRANSPORTED IN TIME BACK TO 1.0.


THAT MOMENT WHEN IT'S CONFIRMED 3.0 TAKES PLACE IN THE IMMEDIATELY PRIOR LOOP TO 1.0/2.0, AND WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT HAPPENS IF KAWORU FAILS TO STOP THIRD IMPACT AT THE END OF 2.22 (WHICH HE DIDN'T IN THE 2.0 LOOP). THAT MOMENT WHEN 4.0 TAKES PLACE IN THE ORIGINAL 1.0/2.0 LOOP.

In all seriousness, I'm reminded of a theory that was going around for a while. Basically it hypothesized the meaning behind the (Not's) in the titles. If I remember it correctly, it was that the (Not) title referred to the movie itself, while the title without (Not) referred to the movie two in advance. To explain:


1.0 You are not Alone/ You can redo
2.0 You can not advance/ ???
3.0 You can not redo/ You are Alone
4.0 ????/ You can advance

Alternatively, 2.0 could be "You can advance/ ???" and 4.0 could be "???/ You can not advance" depending on whether you look at it post 3.0 or not.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:42 pm

Just a preventive headsup to not let this thread go into nothing but international title possibilities spam (thread here).

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:so 無任原点 is probably a very fancy way (and we know Anno and co. looooove kanjispam) of being lost. Both physically and mentally in Shinji's case at the end of Q: He's wandering in the desert being dragged by Asuka after having lost all purpose in life.


Reminds me of how NGE #4's original title was going to be "Wandering Third Children". I do wonder how "You are (not) wandering" or "You are (not) lost" would work as potential titles (too Engrishy for me), and I think desert wandering won't be the whole film.

But yeah, Anno etc's long kanjispam tends to drive me nuts.
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:45 pm

CJD, instead of fighting about silliness when there's insufficient evidence we should make a pact.

After slaving away for however long it takes at whatever jobs, when we both make it to Japan for the premier and see the finished film we shall drop out pants and ask a panel of judges to decide whose anus was more ravaged.
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Postby CJD » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:02 pm

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:After slaving away for however long it takes at whatever jobs, when we both make it to Japan for the premier and see the finished film we shall drop out pants and ask a panel of judges to decide whose anus was more ravaged.


Deal! Oh god I'm going to lose that contest so hard.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:10 pm

What?

I’m just so confused right now, I don’t even know what to think.

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Postby hui43210 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:25 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:What?


I still say Unicron was his best role.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:33 pm

Just a headsup from an old EGF friend:

Shiro wrote:Can you tell the people in that thread that it's not 無任, it's 無在 which means "no location" or "nonexistence"


(Note: It's being read as "muzai".)

So what, "nonexistent origin"? Huh...
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