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Postby notalive » Thu May 02, 2013 10:24 am

I might have worded my previous post a bit poorly. I'm in no way suggesting that we'd get anything from deciphering those melodies. I just had a crazy idea for those who REALLY want to dig into the whole "hidden meaning" stuff ;)
However, if there indeed is a message hidden within the soundtrack, I will declare Anno the God of Everything Cryptic and worship him eternally :lol:

Oh god, the first part turned out to be quite ranty... Sorry for that!
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Thu May 02, 2013 10:38 am

I could get behind there being some sort of massive glyph sequence in 4.0 to decipher. It would be fun! I hope.

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Postby Catamari » Thu May 02, 2013 11:28 am

View Original PostNuclear Lunchbox wrote:I could get behind there being some sort of massive glyph sequence in 4.0 to decipher. It would be fun! I hope.


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Postby NAveryW » Thu May 02, 2013 2:58 pm

Is it possible the glyphs convey messages in a musical language, e.g. Solresol?
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Thu May 02, 2013 4:59 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:Is it possible the glyphs convey messages in a musical language, e.g. Solresol?

I just had the opposite thought; what if the soundtrack conveys the message through text? All we need are some more translations of the glyphs.

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Postby Literary Eagle » Thu May 02, 2013 9:43 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:For info, the famous sound that plays when Shinji is losing it badly in that corridor that the reddit thread is refeiring to :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pe8rrpd0eU

EDIT : acording to some comments on the YT link, this song is based on the song "Borderline Case" from NGE... which is a song that plays when we are deep into Asuka's infamous Mind Rape scene...
Personally I don't find any similarity, but you can try :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivxT0m4LfXg

Still, if it's true... then stop it Anno... please just fucking stop it. :bigeyes:


Yeah, I hear the similarity. With "Borderline Case", start around 40 seconds into it, and you'll hear the part that matches the beginning of the corridor music (it does not match the rapid part that the glyphs revealed, but rather the notes that are slower and higher). Cool! It's also similar to "Yume no Sukima" from the End of Evangelion soundtrack: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CftRlbTmOLY[/url]

My goodness, this is a really interesting discovery! I wonder if these glyphs hold any other surprises for us?
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Postby TruthfulLie » Fri May 03, 2013 1:16 am

View Original PostLiterary Eagle wrote:Yeah, I hear the similarity. With "Borderline Case", start around 40 seconds into it, and you'll hear the part that matches the beginning of the corridor music (it does not match the rapid part that the glyphs revealed, but rather the notes that are slower and higher). Cool! It's also similar to "Yume no Sukima" from the End of Evangelion soundtrack: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CftRlbTmOLY[/url]

My goodness, this is a really interesting discovery! I wonder if these glyphs hold any other surprises for us?


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Postby Guy Nacks » Fri May 03, 2013 2:31 am

It also helps knowing that "A-4" is the label that Shiro Sagisu gave for the original "Borderline Case" track from NGE. The piece that plays during Shinji's breakdown in Q is named "Quelconque 56 avec A-4 2 pianos plus" or (loosely translated) "Ordinary 56 with A-4 and 2 pianos"

A-4 is actually one of the most frequently modified and recycled themes in the whole Evangelion soundtrack with somewhere around 10 different versions if you count the 2 from Rebuild, those being "Long Slow Pain" and the one just mentioned.
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Postby ElMariachi » Fri May 03, 2013 2:38 am

So we can conclude that "A-4" is the official code for "mindfuck song" in the Evangelion franchise soundtrack right?
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Postby Guy Nacks » Fri May 03, 2013 2:43 am

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:So we can conclude that "A-4" is the official code for "mindfuck song" in the Evangelion franchise soundtrack right?


Pretty much.

I'm pretty sure the only instance in which it plays in a non-introspective/mindfuck way is during Yui's farewell to Shinji in EOE.
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Postby riffraff11235 » Fri May 03, 2013 7:09 pm

Anno, you magnificent bastard.... This just made my night!

As for piano melodies, what about the one that plays right before Kaworu closes the Doors of Guf? That theme is used pretty often in the movies, IIRC.
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Postby andreh » Fri May 03, 2013 11:26 pm

1080p anyone?
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri May 03, 2013 11:33 pm

View Original Postandreh wrote:1080p anyone?
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Not legible even on the BD.

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That's as close as it gets too, last frame of the cut.
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Postby SEELE-01 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:56 pm

First the Dummy Plug backwards voice and now this!!! :cringe:

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Postby airman4 » Sat May 04, 2013 8:54 am

View Original PostSEELE-01 wrote:First the Dummy Plug backwards voice and now this!!! :cringe:

I'm sleeping with the lights on tonight :bigeyes:


Hi , link for dummy plug please!

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Postby Literary Eagle » Sat May 04, 2013 10:06 am

airman4 wrote:Hi , link for dummy plug please!


Here you go: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmOI2Zi76g[/url]

And if you would like to see some discussion about it, the thread is here: [url]http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/9190/The-Dummy-Systems-Backwards-Message-MESSAGE-FOUND/?&start=0[/url]

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Sat May 04, 2013 11:45 am

Didn't know about the dummy plug, but now I'm fangasming over it. As to the glyphs, that's different than the Nov. 16th release, where it was the standard tanagram'd Nerv logo.

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Postby airman4 » Sat May 04, 2013 1:33 pm

View Original PostLiterary Eagle wrote:Here you go: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmOI2Zi76g[/url]

And if you would like to see some discussion about it, the thread is here: [url]http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/9190/The-Dummy-Systems-Backwards-Message-MESSAGE-FOUND/?&start=0[/url]

Enjoy!


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You found it ?
If it's yo, then congrats man , this is insane

Now i go back to 3.33 finding messages

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also
the piano duet between kaworu and Shinji have been cracked yet or we wait 3.33 CRC ?

Oh my god anno is insane :facepalm:

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Postby robersora » Sat May 04, 2013 1:56 pm

:scanners_head:

I knew there was something up with that noise. But that it would be such a cool backwards-message...
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