Shinji in 4.0 Speculation Thread
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[SPOILERS] Shinji in 4.0 Speculation Thread
How would the WILL-E staff treat Shinji after he caused Fourth Impact, how would Misato react to Shinji still alive?
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1. They'd lynch him for sure.
2. She'd consider the possibility of putting him in a chemically induced coma to keep him out of trouble without killing him.
2. She'd consider the possibility of putting him in a chemically induced coma to keep him out of trouble without killing him.
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They'd shoot him. He caused an Impact twice. Twice.
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Not his fault.
First time around they never told the poor kid they're putting him in a world-ending machine.
Second time around they didn't learn and still didn't explain jack, so when Kaworu proposed a possible solution to a very desperate and distraught Shinji he went for it with his whole heart even after Kaworu starting smelling something fishy.
His guardians consistently failed to educate or support him in the tasks they forced on him.
WALLE staff have zero right to judge him.
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My point exactly. This time, they wouldn't even give him him the benefit of the doubt. The WILLE people would just shoot him, like a dog. Whether they have a right to do it or not is unimportant; they will just the same.
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They called me the Quentin Tarantino of hentai.
The difference between a blow-up doll and a dakimakura.
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If anybody, it would be Misato. She was the one who hesitated to put him down in the first place.
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Apophenia. Noun. The tendency to perceive a connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or random things.
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The difference between a blow-up doll and a dakimakura.
The second impact he caused was his fault, though. Like he did in 2.0, 3.0 saw him lose his grip on his emotions. Disastrous things happen when Shinji lets his emotions run away with themselves and cloud his better judgment. While Third Impact wasn't really his fault and was merely an accident, he should still take responsibility and try to make up for his mistake. But Fourth Impact was clearly a lapse in judgment on his part.
WILLE will kill him if they get their hands on him, regardless of what Misato has to say about it. Or at least they'll try, at which point Yui will tear their ship apart from the inside and destroy them all.
WILLE will kill him if they get their hands on him, regardless of what Misato has to say about it. Or at least they'll try, at which point Yui will tear their ship apart from the inside and destroy them all.
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Lennik wrote:The second impact he caused was his fault, though. Like he did in 2.0, 3.0 saw him lose his grip on his emotions. Disastrous things happen when Shinji lets his emotions run away with themselves and cloud his better judgment. While Third Impact wasn't really his fault and was merely an accident, he should still take responsibility and try to make up for his mistake. But Fourth Impact was clearly a lapse in judgment on his part.
He had basically no information to work from. You can't blame his judgement when they didn't provide what he needed to make an informed decision. As a kid he's perfectly justified to fall back to emotion when reason fail. The adults are suppose to know that. It's their lapse in judgement to wake him up just to confuse and ignore him and end up with a shitstorm.
Shinji is a good kid with a good but damaged heart who is thrown into ridiculous situations by selfish adults.
Just look at this: he just woke up after what he has been told was 14 years of apocalyptic nightmare and it's all his fault.
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And yet he still greets his elders properly
Also massive props to the "coward" Fuyutsuki for being the only adult to reveal some of the horrible truth that surrounds them to Shinji.
In the end WALLE have no choice but to NOT attempt harming him for 3 simple reasons:
-He's the protagonist
-Yui will rip them a new one if they try
-Yui (and thus Shinji) are the only hope they have against Gendo, because plot will demand Shogouki's return
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TMBounty_Hunter wrote:He had basically no information to work from. You can't blame his judgement when they didn't provide what he needed to make an informed decision. As a kid he's perfectly justified to fall back to emotion when reason fail. The adults are suppose to know that. It's their lapse in judgement to wake him up just to confuse and ignore him and end up with a shitstorm.
So he's not in any way to blame for the fact that he made a bad decision without the proper information? Kaworu tried to warn him, and he didn't listen, because like any traumatized young adult, he's letting his emotions take over and override his better judgment.
Yes, Shinji is a good kid who doesn't deserve what's happened. But that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for some of it.
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