What classical music would you like to see in Q and Final?

[riffraff11235]

Two of my favorite classical pieces have already been featured in Evangelion, namely:

"Air" from Bach's 3rd Orchestral Suite

and the Prelude from Bach's "Cello Suite No. 1"

After seeing it featured in both The Big O and Prometheus, I felt that this could be of use, possibly during a contemplative scene. (Since I'm sure 3.0's gonna be full of those....)

Chopin's "Raindrop Prelude"

I've tried audio-swapping this one into a few of Eva's battle scenes, and it's worked out pretty well.

Karl Jenkins' "Palladio"

This one would probably fit in during a survey of the Earth after a Third (Fourth?) Impact event, a "calm after the storm" scene.

Debussy's "Clair de Lune" - Piano
Debussy's "Clair de Lune" - Orchestral

Any more ideas? In an effort to not have this deteriorate into a "POST YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC" thread, try to include a reasoning behind your choices.

EDIT: Seeing you guys talk about proper URLs made me want to clean up the ones in my post.

[Quadhonk]

Prokofiev - Montagues and Capulets

(skip to 1:34)

[Merkaba]

I definitely agree with you, riffraff, about II Air and Prelude.
I also would like to see Beethoven's 9th make a return.

EDIT: Thanks guys for showing me how to URL properly. :)

[Quadhonk]

I definitely agree with you, riffraff, about II Air and Prelude.
I also would like to see [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1jkj1l-mlM&feature=related[/url] return.

EDIT: How do people post a link and then change what the link says (i.e. remove the URL and place a word/the title of what the link represents?)

Place the link in the first url bracket with a =. F.E: (URL=link goes here)words words words(/URL)

For more info go here: http://forum.evageeks.org/faq.php?mode=bbcode#8

[Hyper Shinchan]

EDIT: How do people post a link and then change what the link says (i.e. remove the URL and place a word/the title of what the link represents?)

[code:1][url=http:\\www.mylink.eu]what you want do display[/url][/code:1]
Anyway, Evangelion already used two of my favourite classical pieces, An Die Freude and Air on the G String, honestly I have no idea about additional tracks that they could use, maybe Vivaldi's Le Quattro Stagioni?

[chaosakita]

This is so cliche, but I want Canon in D.

[riffraff11235]

This is so cliche, but I want Canon in D.

Canon in D was used in Death & Rebirth, but it would be cool to see it return.

[Ornette]

Two of my favorite classical pieces have already been featured in Evangelion, namely:

Bach's "Air on the G String"

I have no idea why it's so immensely pervasive that people call Bach's Air, one of the movements from his 3rd Orchestral Suite, "Air on the G String", which is an arrangement by some violin player who changed the key to C so that he could play the melody all on the G string of his violin. It's not the same thing. That youtube video even says it's the original D key (and if you listen to it, it's clearly in D major). People, even professionals, always mislabel it as "Air on the G string".

[riffraff11235]

I have no idea why it's so immensely pervasive that people call Bach's Air, one of the movements from his 3rd Orchestral Suite, "Air on the G String", which is an arrangement by some violin player who changed the key to C so that he could play it all on the G string of his violin. It's not the same thing. That youtube video even says it's the original D key (and if you listen to it, it's clearly in D major). People, even professionals, always mislabel it as "Air on the G string".

Yeah, I have it listed as "Air" in my iPod, but I assumed from all the hits I was getting on YouTube that "Air on the G String" was the actual title. Thanks for the info. Changing it now.

[Azathoth]

I've always thought Anno could get a little "horrible things happen for ten minutes while i play unfitting music" mileage out of Brahms' Nänie. Doesn't that sound like, I don't know, NME Kaworu suddenly bursting into crazyfaced bloodlust and using his AT field to paint the walls with the entire Nerv command crew or something?

[riffraff11235]

I've always thought Anno could get a little "horrible things happen for ten minutes while i play unfitting music" mileage out of Brahms' Nänie. Doesn't that sound like, I don't know, NME Kaworu suddenly bursting into crazyfaced bloodlust and using his AT field to paint the walls with the entire Nerv command crew or something?

Pieces with choral parts such as this seem to fit Kaworu's character better than purely orchestral pieces. So, yeah, I agree.

[Xard]

16 minutes long, barely coherent formally and narratively Instrumentality sequence set to Beethoven's (in)famous Große Fuge

FUND IT

[Hyper Shinchan]

I wonder if Anno still vaguely remembers of Borodin's Polovetsian Dances...

[gatotsu911]

Verdi's Dies Irae. Borodin's Polovtsian Dances.

And you gotta have some Ludwig Van, duh.

For actually real though, lately one of the things that's been bugging me about the use of Bach's "Air" in EoE is how it comes completely out of nowhere. There is no prior mention of Bach or the piece anywhere in the series and no clear indication of its thematic significance. One gets the impression that Anno and Tsurumaki just said to each other, "You know what would make this gory-fight-scene-intercut-with-a-dramatic-betrayal totally wacky?? A completely dissonant classical music soundtrack, duh!! Worked twice before!"

Only the two times it worked before it actually had some degree of context. Now it's just weird.

For that matter, why is there a jarringly dissonant English vocal piece later on in the film too, aside from just "Gundam did it"? I mean, why is it there?

[Warren Peace]

I view the piece as expressing the hidden (from Asuka) nature of the MPE battle, that it's not the new birth she thinks it is, rather a tragic inevitable defeat. Also, they needed a track that intercut gracefully with the Ritsuko scene. Standard Eva action music would have been even more jarring there. It's an interesting way to tie those two scenes together -- both heroines are bound to lose, they just don't know it yet.

[gatotsu911]

Yeah but just sticking in an iconic piece of classical music by an iconic Western composer carries with it a whole truckload of cultural and symbolic baggage beyond simply "it fits this scene I guess". Again, it woulda been nice if the piece had had some explicit, previously-established connection with the plot or themes of the series. At least the cello ensemble in Death had that much going for it.

[Blue Monday]

I view the piece as expressing the hidden (from Asuka) nature of the MPE battle, that it's not the new birth she thinks it is, rather a tragic inevitable defeat. Also, they needed a track that intercut gracefully with the Ritsuko scene. Standard Eva action music would have been even more jarring there. It's an interesting way to tie those two scenes together -- both heroines are bound to lose, they just don't know it yet.

Nicely put. Hadn't though about it like that before...

[Hyper Shinchan]

There is no prior mention of Bach or the piece anywhere in the series and no clear indication of its thematic significance.

Suiten für Violoncello solo Nr.1 G-dur, BWV. 1007.Vorspier and Partita III für Violino solo E-dur, BWV. 1006 3. Gavotte in Rondo would like to have a word or two with you.

[gatotsu911]

Yeah fine, I remembered that right after posting. Still not significant enough to really count for anything, though.

[Hyper Shinchan]

Still not significant enough to really count for anything, though.

Actually I don't even exactly understand what you're getting at. Why don't they count? Also, why does it have to have an "explicit, previously-established connection with the plot or themes of the series"?