Hideaki Anno interview 14/07/2012

Kendrix · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject:

If you look closely, they even ADDED hell train scenes (Especially in 1.0), they're all but non-present... more than the corresponding anmount of original series had up untill the zeruel battle.
I did note the same shift to more visual metaphors (Many, many things about Asuka, but most obviously, Shinji standing in front of that wrecked motorway. Bam. End of the road.) that Jorno noted, but I don't think the Psycho talk was significantly decreased...
I'd like to mention the aquarium scene... not the comic relief and shipping related cuteness, but Kaji's speech about the responsibilities of survivors and the rebuilding of the earth .... or heck, any scene Kaji is in(He and Misato also get a new scene deliberating on responsibility), to the point that his rebuild VA (not the same guy who did him in the series) mainly remembered that particular role as some gritty serious katastrophe survivor guy as opposed to the common perception of his casanova-ness being his most remembered trait... He didn't get to do that much casanova-ing in rebuild, baring the introduction scene with Ritsuko.

The psycho talk is *abundant*, even the most comon sources of complaint, Mari and Asuka, keep sprouting stuff about doing things alone, and heck, just look at Asuka:
She got all these scenes where she's alone in the darkness of her room or her entry plug, deliberating things about human comunication.

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Bagheera · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:17 am Post subject:

Kendrix wrote:

She got all these scenes where she's alone in the darkness of her room or her entry plug, deliberating things about human comunication.

Heh, that's a good point. What's Asuka's scene with her doll if not a de facto internal monologue?

I think we're mistaking differences in movie/TV storytelling devices for something more significant here.

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Na7e · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:01 am Post subject:

Bagheera wrote:

Heh, that's a good point. What's Asuka's scene with her doll if not a de facto internal monologue?

I think we're mistaking differences in movie/TV storytelling devices for something more significant here.

Her interactions with the doll aren't something I would consider positive, even using it as a slur against Rei. The fact it's in a shot of focus in her final conversation with Misato paints the entire scene in a disingenuous light.

Bagheera · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:06 am Post subject:

Na7e wrote:

Her interactions with the doll aren't something I would consider positive, even using it as a slur against Rei. The fact it's in a shot of focus in her final conversation with Misato paints the entire scene in a disingenuous light.

Wait, who said anything about it being positive? That has no bearing on the question of whether or not it's a storytelling device, which is what I thought we were talking about here. And I'm talking about her conversation with her doll, not Misato. It's a different scene.

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Na7e · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:13 am Post subject:

Bagheera wrote:

Wait, who said anything about it being positive? That has no bearing on the question of whether or not it's a storytelling device, which is what I thought we were talking about here. And I'm talking about her conversation with her doll, not Misato. It's a different scene.

Sorry, my bad. I'm rather tired at the moment. Yes, your right about it being an internal monologue though considering Shikinami is projecting onto the doll.

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Kendrix wrote:

He didn't get to do that much casanova-ing in rebuild, baring the introduction scene with Ritsuko.

Well he did do his little come-on routine to Shinji by the soda machine.

Venez · Embryo Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Gender: Male

I find it slightly sad he wants to get rid of some of the great concepts in the show, but he is most likely in a different state mentally since NGE was created. Oh well, if you don't like the rebuild, just watch the series over, cry manly tears, and pretend it never happened.

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Na7e · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject:

^Except...he doesn't say that. He remarks that Shinji becoming a hero who fights desperately to save a girl...is probably a perception of the times. He states he can't change his essential nature, even reminding the interviewer that he hasnt changed much. So I really doubt Shinji becoming a stereotypical shōnen character is in his plans.

Joe · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject:

Na7e wrote:

^Except...he doesn't say that. He remarks that Shinji becoming a hero who fights desperately to save a girl...is probably a perception of the times. He states he can't change his essential nature, even reminding the interviewer that he hasnt changed much. So I really doubt Shinji becoming a stereotypical shōnen character isn't in his plans.

Sure ! Wait for 3.0, I'm pretty sure that Anno will troll all of us with a turnaround.
Don't forget that the moe potential of Asuka is totally screwed up in 3.0, so everything can happen.

Na7e · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject:

^Suffering builds character. Especially in Asuka's case quite literally.

Joe · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject:

Kaji said something similar. (subtitles in French anyway)

Venez · Embryo Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Gender: Male

Na7e wrote:

^Except...he doesn't say that. He remarks that Shinji becoming a hero who fights desperately to save a girl...is probably a perception of the times. He states he can't change his essential nature, even reminding the interviewer that he hasnt changed much. So I really doubt Shinji becoming a stereotypical shōnen character is in his plans.

I just mean by making it more for entertainment, the chances of losing some of the meaning is almost imminent.

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Joe · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject:

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I just mean by making it more for entertainment, the chances of losing some of the meaning is almost imminent.

As said before, it can be willed by Anno, in order to do something unexpected in 3.0
"Reculer pour mieux sauter".

Anno is too good, he can not do an shonen-Shinji without any purpose in mind.

Venez · Embryo Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Gender: Male

Joe wrote:

As said before, it can be willed by Anno, in order to do something unexpected in 3.0
"Reculer pour mieux sauter".

Anno is too good, he can not do an shonen-Shinji without any purpose in mind.

Agreed, I just hope it comes out without any delays, and no one is disappointing, I don't see how I could be at least.

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Warren Peace · Lilin Joined: 28 May 2010 Age: 82

I gotta say, I'm beginning to hate the endless anime sub-genres and character types. We can discuss The Dark Knight Rises without going into the Moe-ness of Catwoman. No such luck were it an anime.

Blue Monday · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:34 am Post subject:

I find the "can't change my essential nature" comment to be a good/promising sign.

Good on you Anno!

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FreakyFilmFan4ever · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject:

Venez wrote:

I just mean by making it more for entertainment, the chances of losing some of the meaning is almost imminent.

Does this mean that shows that do have subtle meanings and/or artistic influence have little to no chance of being entertaining?

[Tosses Koyaanisqatsi, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The End of Evangelion for suddenly realizing that they're not entertaining movies.]

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driftking18594 · Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject:

Warren Peace wrote:

We can discuss The Dark Knight Rises without going into the Moe-ness of Catwoman.

Am I kawaii, Wayne-kun?

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Warren Peace · Lilin Joined: 28 May 2010 Age: 82

That's from the scene with her in the maid's outfit, right?

I find this interesting:

"However, the new Eva fans are different in character from the old ones, though I can't specifically say what the difference is."

I'm sure there are non-Japanese fans who jumped onboard because of Rebuild, but as far as this forum goes, most seem to be holdovers from the old series. Is there a more prominent contingent of n00bz in the homeland? Anno seems to think so.

FreakyFilmFan4ever · Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:53 am Post subject:

Warren Peace wrote:

I'm sure there are non-Japanese fans who jumped onboard because of Rebuild, but as far as this forum goes, most seem to be holdovers from the old series. Is there a more prominent contingent of n00bz in the homeland? Anno seems to think so.

Well, unlike America, Japan doesn't have this divide between the younger anime fans and the older group of anime fans that have been watching anime since the late 80's where all they had was undubbed/unsubbed AKIRA on 18th generation VHS tape and were happy with it even though they couldn't understand the language. I guess it also bleeds over into Evangelion fandom.

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**Sailor Star Dust** · Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject:

Some clarification on NME's movie production/tie-ins, this thread is mentioned in the article: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2012-09-14

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