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Postby qu4d » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:57 am

Oi,

just a little question. I'd like to work on the timeline and stuff. I enjoy compiling picturs with keymoments and order them chronologically. So if you'd like to, I would do this with the whole series. Maybe with some kind of chapters. Would you be interested or would it be a waste of time?

Example:

2nd Impact
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Yuis life, plan and fate
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Asukas life
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:05 am

I think it'd be a cool idea and helpful. Dunno if it would be best to fit/rearrange this into the Timeline article or make a new article, though.
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Postby Ornette » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:40 am

Would be great to spiff up the Timeline article with images. The images won't, by themselves, align neatly next to each other like that so if you want to make 3 of them joined together, you'd need to upload them already joined together and maybe put them all into a category "Category:Images (Timeline)" or something.
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Postby qu4d » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:41 am

Oki doki :)

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Postby qu4d » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:21 pm

Important question: Is a width of 600pixels ok?

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Postby Reichu » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:54 pm

Honestly, I'd just use separate images and employ the montage box. This avoids redundancy, lets changes in the image lineup be made easily, and makes mistakes easy to fix (a lot of the examples you posted weren't actually in chronological order).
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Postby deeRez » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:38 am

View Original Postqu4d wrote:Oi,

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I must say, it's intriguing seeing Evangelion laid out chronologically.
Kind of puts it all into perspective.

Though, about the grave scene, don't forget that there's two of them.
Shinji and Gendo visit Yui's grave three years before Shinji becomes an Eva pilot, and once more after.

But, I don't know if the first grave scene with a three-years younger Shinji was ever drawn ... If not, then yeah, for Yui's storyline use the grave visit images from when Shinji's an Eva pilot, otherwise try to see if the earlier visit was ever shown drawn.

On the same note, the text-based timeline in the wiki makes note of their 2012 grave visit, but doesn't mention their second grave visit (after Shinji becomes an Eva pilot) which is odd.
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Postby ReiAyanami25 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:20 am

Evangelion Chronicle does something similar to this. Perhaps it will be of use.
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Postby qu4d » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:43 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:(a lot of the examples you posted weren't actually in chronological order).


which ones? :|

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Postby Reichu » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:24 pm

View Original Postqu4d wrote:which ones? :|

http://i40.tinypic.com/2e35r0w.png (Adam's discovery should be first)
http://i42.tinypic.com/2wf4veq.png (Yui in pink should be first)
http://i42.tinypic.com/k9wapk.png (Yui has the clipboard held up to her face before she puts it down to greet Fuyutsuki)
http://i39.tinypic.com/oqdo53.png (Yui's letter is last)

With these ones, you're attempting to put images in sequence when it's not really possible (at least with all three):

http://i42.tinypic.com/9sz85y.png (no context for the first image; second image belongs to a scene where Gendo and Yui are talking -- how do you know which one happened first?)
http://i44.tinypic.com/245xcac.png (how do we know the shot of Yui occurs between the other two?)
http://i40.tinypic.com/9aabrq.png (how do we know Asuka's crying fit doesn't go in the middle?)

I don't even understand this one:

http://i44.tinypic.com/cu8ab.png
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Postby qu4d » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:43 pm

Not trying to be disrespectful, but are you serious o_O

It's not supposed to be THAT chronological. What difference does it make whether Yui has the clipboard held up to her face or not? It's supposed to look good.

Or the picture with Adam. Of course they found him/her before, but really? The textblabla under the pictures is there for a reason. And it wouldnt look good, if theres 1 white picture and 2 black ones. Black - White - Black looks better. Contrast, you know? :/

Or Yuis "death". What difference does it make?! Just reading the question "how do we know the shot of Yui occurs between the other two?" is shocking...

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Postby Reichu » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:21 pm

qu4d wrote:I enjoy compiling picturs with keymoments and order[ing] them chronologically.

...you didn't say "in the order of what appeals to me [qu4d] cosmetically".

And you asked "which ones?", so I answered. You shouldn't have asked if you couldn't handle criticism.
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Postby qu4d » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:26 pm

What does this have to do with criticism?! That's pedantic² and I know what it means to be pedantic. You don't have to be offensive :|

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Postby Reichu » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:42 pm

It's not pedantic at all. If you're illustrating a timeline, the illustrations should be in order as well. The examples in Evangelion Chronicle -- and just about every other illustrated timeline I think I've ever seen -- uses this principle to straightforward and fine effect.

In any event, I don't think "composite images" are necessary, as already mentioned. Any images not already in the database can be uploaded separately and put together via montage box.

(And lighten up, dude. You must have skin so thin you can breathe through it if my post was "offensive".)
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:57 am

Is this accurate at all in terms of the series? Asking because I honestly don't know. http://qmisato.tumblr.com/post/97427931769

Of course, on our own wiki we have a few dates narrowed down (assuming EoTV/EoE concurrency :wink: ), but I don't believe it's to the date as Shadowjack's timeline is. (Heard of the guy but never personally talked with him or anything.)
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:39 am

I have no idea how he narrowed down all the dates in the show so precisely - the only one we know of in-series being Friday, September 11 (crazy coincidence, but it was six years before that day became infamous). Having significant events fall around characters' birthdays also seems more like a coincidence than something that was planned, especially since the characters share their birthdays with their VAs.

Kaworu meeting Shinji on Christmas Eve and dying on Christmas...yeah. No surprise.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:07 pm

I'm waiting to hear back, but...

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:According to a Japanese Twitter friend: In their respective episodes, Sachiel attacked June 22nd 2015 and Shammy attacked July 13th 2015.


Not sure if the source would be Chronicle or what, but I don't know what to believe anymore! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

Edit: He apparently got it from the Japanese wikipedia page about the 2015 in fiction section. I dunno, lol.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:58 pm

Going by the EoTV telop, the two points of concurrency do make some sense. What did your Japanese Twitter friend say?
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:00 am

He just mentioned that the date for Sachiel was found on Japanese wikipedia while Shammy's date was something he heard online at some point.

I'll ask about concurrency thoughts soon. ;)
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Postby aigarius » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:47 pm

Just got the following link and thought that the original Twitter source sounds close enough to the creators that it might be canon - http://www.kitakubu.co/2015/06/june-22-2015-the-events-of-evangelion-episode-1-take-place/

Also note that June 22 is basically Summer Solstice, so that would make sense in a mythological way too.
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