Incoming remastered BD Box of Gunbuster

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Incoming remastered BD Box of Gunbuster

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:32 am

ANN: Aim for the Top! Gunbuster BD Box to Add New Footage
It looks really, really interesting, I would have wanted it simply for the remastered HD video, all these extras make it even more juicy. I just hope that it'll be region free (or at least A/B), but usually Bandai Visual doesn't use region codes.
This could be the first decent BD Box of a Gainax anime (not some upscaled and interlaced shit), at last.
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:59 am

The movie version of Gunbuster has been out on BD for years so we already know the video quality will be glorious.

The only problem now is saving up for it.
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Postby Xard » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:06 am

The complete edition will add a 115-minute bonus extras disc with an uncut original version of the sixth episode


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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:22 am

View Original PostXard wrote:jesus fuck

Actually I think that there's a mistranslation or misunderstanding about that part. I'm almost completely sure that it's simply the 4:3 version of episode 6, uncropped rather than uncut, it was already present in the extra disc of the Japanese remastered DVD (this disc is absent in the N. America release).
Also, the sites mentioned as sources by ANN have the technical details for those interested: two discs are dual layer (50 GB) while one is single layer (25 GB) (the extra disc of the "Complete Edition" is one of the dual layer discs), the main feature is 1080p while the extras are mixed, 1080p for 16:9 contents (presumably the new footage like recent interviews and similar stuff) and 1080i for some 4:3 contents (probably old material, not printed on film), the video codec is AVC while the audio codecs are Dolby True HD for the 5.1 track and LPCM for the 2.0 one (this is actually a pretty standard layout for Japanese BDs).
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Postby EvangelionFan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:42 am

The three-disc Blu-ray Box Complete Edition will sell for 15,540 yen (about US$201). Bandai Visual will offer a two-disc regular edition of the box without the bonus extras disc for 13,440 yen (US$174).


For three or even two Blu-Ray Discs, those prices are still one hundred dollars too expensive for the casual buyer. How are they justifying this price?
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Postby Xard » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:52 am

View Original PostEvangelionFan wrote:For three or even two Blu-Ray Discs, those prices are still one hundred dollars too expensive for the casual buyer. How are they justifying this price?


Have you ever looked at prices of anime BDs in Japan? For a boxset of whole series...that's not bad.

I counted once that if I were to purchase a two cour tv anime series completely new the total sum was close to 500€ IIRC

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:31 am

View Original PostEvangelionFan wrote:How are they justifying this price?

The prices are perfectly fine by Japanese standards.

As for how much YOU will pay if you're buying you have to blame the absolutely horrific exchange rate we have right now.

http://www.google.ca/finance?q=JPYAUD
http://www.google.ca/finance?q=JPYUSD

Or more relevant and slightly more fortunate for me

http://www.google.ca/finance?q=JPYCAD

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Postby BiQ » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:03 am

View Original PostEvangelionFan wrote:For three or even two Blu-Ray Discs, those prices are still one hundred dollars too expensive for the casual buyer. How are they justifying this price?


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I have let myself believe only hardcore otaku actually buy anime DVDs/BDs in Japan instead of just catching it on television and being done with it. So compared to western market where the "casual" buyers are supposed to actually by the sets the Japanese releases are something of a special items. Which is why I honestly think paid streaming services like Crunchyroll are the correct way to go; I'd like to watch anime and pay for it some sane amount of money but I DON'T want to fill my bookshelf with DVD sets I'm going to watch only once. Sure, there are series like Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, FLCL etc. where I actually want to own the discs but those really are the tiny minority compared to "anime I'd like to watch once and be done with".

...unless it's the newest Ghibli film or Rebuild of Evangelion, of course. Looking at numbers it seems owning them is some kind of sign of national pride for Japanese or something.

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:13 pm

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:Just keeps on going up and up and UP!

Euro/Yen exchange is still decent enough for now, but who knows what will happen between now and February 2012...
View Original PostBiQ wrote:Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I have let myself believe only hardcore otaku actually buy anime DVDs/BDs in Japan instead of just catching it on television and being done with it.

Yeah, I've heard the same thing, apparently an other common way to grab anime is renting them. Indeed their prices are too high but actually Bandai Visual Ent. has quite high prices even for their N.America releases, in part it's because they want to discourage Japanese imports, Bandai often releases identical, or almost identical, discs in Japan and the west, the Gunbuster movie Box is an example, afaik.
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Postby gatotsu911 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:30 pm

Dear R1 Industry: For the love of God, release this. And treat it better than Bandai's ultra-limited-edition-impossible-to-find-for-an-affordable-price Gunbuster re-release from a few years ago. Please.

BTW Funimation, if you guys pick this up I will officially love you forever.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:31 pm

View Original Postgatotsu911 wrote:Dear R1 Industry: For the love of God, release this. And treat it better than Bandai's ultra-limited-edition-impossible-to-find-for-an-affordable-price Gunbuster re-release from a few years ago. Please.

BTW Funimation, if you guys pick this up I will officially love you forever.

Why do you want Funi to rape poor Gunbuster? I guess it'll end up being released for a crazy price by Bandai, the funny thing is that probably they'll end up mutilating the soundtrack once again (and I doubt that they'll include the extra disc judging by past events).
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Postby Shogo-Kun » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:57 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Why do you want Funi to rape poor Gunbuster?


HEY! FUNI nows how to release anime to the states! Have you seen their releases of FLCL, Rebuild, or even the Dragon Ball franchise?!
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Postby gatotsu911 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:24 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Why do you want Funi to rape poor Gunbuster?

What is this rape you speak of? These days if you want an R1 anime release that's both decent and affordable, it's pretty much Funimation or bust. Or would you rather Gunbuster not get a proper R1 release at all?
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Postby Xard » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:35 pm

aren't Funi the guys who pack shitton of episodes to one disc, cause terrible drop in video quality and sell them for cheap?

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Postby Shogo-Kun » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:39 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:aren't Funi the guys who pack shitton of episodes to one disc, cause terrible drop in video quality and sell them for cheap?

You're kidding right? Look at the DVDs for Dragon Ball Z Kai AND FLCL. The video quality is AMAZING!
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Postby Xard » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:44 pm

I've heard plenty of bad things about some Funi releases (and how much better Nozomi Ent. releases are as a rule, something I can believe just looking at the amount of bonus material, packaging etc. Nozomi Ent gives). I have no own experience with them.

also, I gather you're talking about the old FLCL releases which did NOT even try to put all eps on 1-2 discs

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Postby Shogo-Kun » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:59 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:Also, I gather you're talking about the old FLCL releases which did NOT even try to put all eps on 1-2 discs

Nope. I don't even own those releases. I own the FUNI release which has all 6 episodes on one disc plus extras. That's a better deal for me!
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Postby Tarnsman » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:03 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:aren't Funi the guys who pack shitton of episodes to one disc, cause terrible drop in video quality and sell them for cheap?

If by a shitton you mean 5 or 6, and by a terrible drop in video quality you mean a minor drop on DVD releases and none on BD releases, then sure. The only thing I've ever heard about having major video issues is their One Piece releases which I will never own so I don't care. Funi's two biggest problems for me is 1) the Japanese audio on their DVDs tends to be less than spectacular, and 2) they put way too many worthless extras on their DVDs (Localization shit I don't care about) and rarely have ones worth watching (Japanese extras). Although that second one is true for most R1 releases.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:47 pm

I was kinda expecting similar reactions...
View Original PostShogo-Kun wrote:HEY! FUNI nows how to release anime to the states! Have you seen their releases of FLCL, Rebuild, or even the Dragon Ball franchise?!

I've seen their Rebuild BDs and I know that they didn't use SBMV to encode the masters and as result there's some banding compared to the Japanese release, call me a maniac but it does matter since we can't have 10 bit videos on BD. I also know that they've stripped the various Fly me to the Moon extra videos from re-prints.
View Original Postgatotsu911 wrote:What is this rape you speak of? These days if you want an R1 anime release that's both decent and affordable, it's pretty much Funimation or bust. Or would you rather Gunbuster not get a proper R1 release at all?

I don't really care about R1 (actually the term is outdated... now both Japan and US are Region A) releases since I don't live in the States, personally I just purchase something if it's really worth it, I've stopped wasting my money for half-good releases (I've too many shitty DVDs in my collection, for example the old Italian release of Gunbuster or FLCL) but now I'm disposed to pay an extra for really good releases, if I'm really interested in the anime, like in Gunbuster case.

Anyway the discussion is beyond the point, Bandai released in US both the remastered series on DVD and the movies on BD, it's quite likely that they're going to release these BDs as well, Gunbuster is owned by Bandai and it's "their" second anime, after Honneamise no Tsubasa, I doubt they'll license it to Funi.
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Postby Electric Sachiel » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:36 am

Wait!!! Since this is a Japanese release, will we be getting English subs for both the shows and all the bonus features? This set is useless for me if all the bonus features and insert materials are in Japanese.


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