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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:51 pm

Thanks a lot for your efforts svenge, it's really an useful site.
I really don't care about the layout, it's fine as long as it works, but Japanese text probably wouldn't be really troublesome imo.
What do you think about adding the Test Type 01 disc and the Puchi Eva ones?

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Postby svenge » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:03 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:Thanks a lot for your efforts svenge, it's really an useful site.
I really don't care about the layout, it's fine as long as it works, but Japanese text probably wouldn't be really troublesome imo.
What do you think about adding the Test Type 01 disc and the Puchi Eva ones?


The 01 Test-Type disc is in the JPN Renewal section already. As for Puchi Eva, it falls outside the mandate of the database since it's a spin-off.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:07 pm

"Bump" because it was missed:

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Edit: I just noticed that the Renewal Feature Films UMD (included with the Eva2 game) isn't mentioned anywhere. It was referred to as the Decade Box Set. I happen to own it, not that I own a Japanese-PSP to play UMD movies of course. (PSP UMD games are region-free, UMD movies are not.)


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Postby svenge » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:28 pm

Added the PSP Decade Memorial Box.

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:51 pm

View Original Postsvenge wrote:The 01 Test-Type disc is in the JPN Renewal section already.

My bad I didn't notice that it's in the Renewal section, it makes sense.
Ah, UMD-Video uses the same region codes of DVD-Video, it doesn't require a Japanese PSP, it requires a Region 2 PSP (so European ones are fine as well).

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Postby svenge » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:58 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:My bad I didn't notice that it's in the Renewal section, it makes sense.
Ah, UMD-Video uses the same region codes of DVD-Video, it doesn't require a Japanese PSP, it requires a Region 2 PSP (so European ones are fine as well).


I did not know that, thanks for the info! Sadly, the only handheld gaming system I own is the O.G. Gameboy circa 1989...

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:31 pm

Svenge, just so you know, you motivated me to track down the original version of Collection 0:1 on eBay to help fill out my collection even more. Thanks, I think. -o-;

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:38 pm

View Original Postsvenge wrote:I did not know that, thanks for the info! Sadly, the only handheld gaming system I own is the O.G. Gameboy circa 1989...


Do you think this page http://svenge.pcriot.com/umd.htm could clarify that you need a Japanese or European PSP (Region-2 UMD) to play the UMD-Video but not a UMD-Game? I think it'd be good just to avoid confusion. But it is silly anyway how PSPs are region-free for the UMD-games but not region-free for the UMD-movies. -_-

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Postby svenge » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:42 pm

@SSD: Added the game being region-free to the UMD listing.

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:Svenge, just so you know, you motivated me to track down the original version of Collection 0:1 on eBay to help fill out my collection even more. Thanks, I think. -o-;


Don't spend more than I did ($4 including shipping) to get it :) It's hardly worth that much, as poor as the video is... Looking at your collection, it seems that the only US video releases you're missing are the AIX Collection 0:1, the Platinum Perfect tin, and the D+R and EoE VHS tapes...

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:49 pm

View Original Postsvenge wrote:Looking at your collection, it seems that the only US video releases you're missing are the AIX Collection 0:1, the Platinum Perfect tin, and the D+R and EoE VHS tapes...

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My Perfect Collection DVDs are in the Paul Champagne Box, so I don't have the black box. I'm short the Platinum Tin, the second LD, and the movies on VHS. Just bought the original version of Collection 0:1 on eBay. For good measure, I also have the unofficial box that Paul Champagne did for the two movies.

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I would probably have them all already, but I've also been working on getting the Saturn games.

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Postby svenge » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:50 am

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:My Perfect Collection DVDs are in the Paul Champagne Box, so I don't have the black box. I'm short the Platinum Tin, the second LD, and the movies on VHS. Just bought the original version of Collection 0:1 on eBay. For good measure, I also have the unofficial box that Paul Champagne did for the two movies.

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I would probably have them all already, but I've also been working on getting the Saturn games.


Ah. I found another picture of that unofficial box via the Internet Archive, it's an interesting choice of image. It uses same source image created by Masayuki (pg. 65 of "Die Sterne") that was also used on the GDVD-009 EoE DVD from the Second Impact Box #3. I can see why it was selected though, it has great horizontal symmetry and allows Shinji and Eva-01's face to be on the box's spine...

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Since it's an "unofficial" box and not licensed AFAIK, I won't be adding it to the Compendium.

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:22 am

View Original Postsvenge wrote:Since it's an "unofficial" box and not licensed AFAIK, I won't be adding it to the Compendium.

Yeah, I wouldn't either, but being as it's done by the same guy, and is really uncommon, I thought it would be a really nice thing to have in my collection. And it was relatively cheap too. I got it for around $40, despite coming with both movie DVDs in perfect condition. I think maybe people looked at it and didn't think it was legit or something.

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Postby svenge » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:28 am

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't either, but being as it's done by the same guy, and is really uncommon, I thought it would be a really nice thing to have in my collection. And it was relatively cheap too. I got it for around $40, despite coming with both movie DVDs in perfect condition. I think maybe people looked at it and didn't think it was legit or something.


It is indeed a nice box. Since $40 is (and presumably was when you got it) about the going rate for both the D+R & EoE single DVD releases together, you definately got a good deal out of it :) I just wish that the Manga Entertainment movie box set's outer box was more sturdy like those Champagne boxes. Flimsy paperboard isn't made to last, sadly. I had to buy 2 of them to get one that was shelf-presentable...

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:33 am

View Original Postsvenge wrote:Flimsy paperboard isn't made to last, sadly. I had to buy 2 of them to get one that was shelf-presentable...

Yeah, that's part of the reason I'm holding off on the tinpack. I have a feeling it gets dented easily. I'm hoping to get it new at a convention for a reasonable price, and be able to handle and inspect it in person.

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Postby svenge » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:21 pm

View Original Postsymbv wrote:...It would be nice to have the actual Japanese text for the episode list...


I reconsidered this, and decided to meet this request in a different way. Instead of Japanese plain-text, I've included screencaps of the Japanese episode titles via hyperlinks. Hopefully this is an acceptable solution...

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:53 pm

Some links weren't working until some moments ago but now they're working fine (I suppose that you've corrected them).

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Postby svenge » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:33 am

Well, I found something interesting while looking at random Japanese auctions... apparantly they made a VHS version of the "Genesis 0:X" bonus video (with the OA versions of 21-24). The LD version's existence is common knowledge (catalog #3SLG2), but this is the first I've heard of a VHS of it. Does anyone have any information about this? The only thing I have is a possible catalog number of SLG7 from this store's site which lists it but currently is out of stock...

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:42 pm

So uh, I'm a 2006 "new fag". I heard of the show in high school (2000-2004) but couldn't actually watch it until sometime in college (2006) via Renewal Fansubs/Platinum DVDs and Adult Swim Ep03. Onto my questions since I didn't see them anywhere on your FAQ.

Yesterday I acquired the NGE Collection Volume 0:7 and 0:8 (DVD-burnt) from Reichu and I'm puzzled by a few things:
    1) Why doesn't the original OA 23 from NGE Collection 0:7 include the superimposed images during the Rei aquarium sequence? Was that only in the pre-Renewal DC episodes?

    2) What's the deal with ADV "dubtitling" the opening song lyrics, removing Anno's name from the credits, superimposing (English instead of Japanese Kana & Kanji) signs? And their overall crappy translation with Eva? (At least Platinum had an excellent translation.) I can't recall if other ADV-acquired anime from the 90s I watched included superimposed English sign text instead of Japanese, but maybe.

    3) Why were there Spanish/French/etc dub tracks on their original release but not something like Platinum?

    4) Why did it take so many years for ADV (first release in 2000, DC Eps in 2002) to release the DC Episodes when Gainax themselves released the DC episodes first (1998) then OA Episodes (2001) later? I sort of recall hearing ADV was impatient when it came to licensing Eva but I don't know all the details.

If you have no idea how to answer some of these, that's fine. I figured they were good questions to ask at least.

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Postby Tarnsman » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:00 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:I can't recall if other ADV-acquired anime from the 90s I watched included superimposed English sign text instead of Japanese, but maybe.

They did. I love my MS Paint Nadesico warning signs.
Sailor Star Dust wrote:Why did it take so many years for ADV (first release in 2000, DC Eps in 2002) to release the DC Episodes when Gainax themselves released the DC episodes first (1998) then OA Episodes (2001) later? I sort of recall hearing ADV was impatient when it came to licensing Eva but I don't know all the details.

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Postby svenge » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:20 pm

The "Reiquarium" was only in the pre-Renewal 23'. It's not on the original "Collection 0:7" DVD from 2000 (which has OA 21-23), but can be found on the "Director's Cut: Resurrection" DVD from 2004 (which has the pre-Renewal version NPC episodes 21'-23'). Note that it's not on the Platinum: 06 DVD (based on the Japanese "Renewal" version) from 2005 either.

Gainax released the OA Versions of 21-24 on Japanese VHS/LD (via mail-order redemption of the POPs of the 14 TV volumes) in sometime in early 1999. It did take until 2001's "Second Impact Box" set #2 for OA 21-24 to be released on DVD in Japan, however.

As to why ADV waited until 2004 to release the NPC versions of 21'-24', I don't know. I know why they didn't release them originally in the VHS era (they didn't want to wait for Gainax to finish creating the NPC versions, so they went ahead and used the broadcast versions instead). I believe that the 1999/2000 DVDs were based off of the masters used for the 1996-98 VHS releases, so that's why the original DVDs didn't have 21'-24'.

As for why the OP was so modified and the translation quality was so lousy for the VHS tapes and original DVDs, I think it has to do with how things were at the time. As much as anime is a niche product today, it was 10x more so 15 years ago. Translations weren't as good, on-screen Japanese text and signs were regularly modified, and sometimes changes were made to make the product more "user-friendly" to the general buying public. As time went on, the customers became more discerning and vocal about their preferences (especially about keeping things as untouched as possible), and the US licensees gained experience and competence.

That's why if you look at the "Director's Cut" DVDs which have the NPC versions prepared to modern standards and the OA versions depicted largely as they were by ADV in the VHS era (albeit with softsubs for the dialogue) you'll see how much things changed from 1996 (when ADV first released Eva on VHS) to 2004 (when they released the "Director's Cut" DVDs and then later that year the "Platinum" editions.) Of course, I'm a 2003-era "medium fag", so I wasn't in the scene back when Eva was first released here in the US. As such, I may well be wrong about some details of old ADV practices.


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