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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:33 am

View Original PostTumbling Down wrote:SHED

That was disturbing.

In a way that I enjoyed (mostly), but certainly not for everyone. :sweat:
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Postby Tumbling Down » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:09 pm

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Postby TehDonutKing » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:31 am

It is not my intention to start a debate when i say this, but the season opening is making rounds on the internet for being very political. Curious as to what you guys think about it.

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Postby StarShaper7 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:47 pm

Not really anything interesting going on in that regard. It's pretty much just a one-sided argument against communism, if you want to look at it through a political lens. I liked that it kind of felt like an episode about the Mane 6 being held captive by a cult that tried to force them into converting to their way of life that supposedly removed inequality and loneliness. So it was like the village was a Krazy Kommie Kult that used a (fake) Lance of Longinus to bring about Instrumentality in the form of total conformity. I guess you could say that's an interesting thing to do in a cartoon that's watched primarily by little girls. But I'm pretty sure most of the people who now watch MLP don't exactly fit that description.

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Postby ::KL7:: » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:09 pm

^ Ha! I thought of the lance of Longinus also.
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Postby Chuckman » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:58 pm

I have a feeling if I ever watched this show it wouldn't live up to the beautiful nightmare of the surreal I have envisioned it to be from observing the fandom and seeing random screencaps.

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Postby child of Lilith » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:55 pm

^It wouldn't.
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I saw it less as a warning against communism and more of a warning against sjw types. Either way it was a decent opening.
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Postby StarShaper7 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:26 pm

You would be disappointed, yes.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:30 pm

Without spoilers, are fans happy how "Princess Twilight" was done? (Season 3 or 4 OP.) Yeah, catching up to do....
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Postby StarShaper7 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:43 pm

I'm mostly indifferent to it. Didn't really seem necessary to me though. But I never really cared much for Twilight to begin with.

And, yeah, the SJW angle does work. Probably even better than the communist one, given the fandom.

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Postby Defectron » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:46 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Without spoilers, are fans happy how "Princess Twilight" was done? (Season 3 or 4 OP.) Yeah, catching up to do....


If your talking about the episode where she became a princess, no I'm not because that was a completely unnessecery and forced move. Though after that episode I think that they handeled her character very well. So in that respect I am. So depending on what you mean the answer is yes and no.

And, yeah, the SJW angle does work. Probably even better than the communist one, given the fandom.


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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:06 am

I saw these episode (finally!), but felt no SJW vibes within it one way or the other. That seems about as concrete of an interpretation as the one that states that Frozen sympathizes with kids with autism more than it does to sympathize with certain experiences of homosexuals who were (or still are) in the closet about their sexual orientation, as the filmmakers themselves had hinted that it was. Sometimes people experiments different levels of similar things, and when everything’s been water-down and made marketable to children, the differences between the experiences of two non-entirely-related subjects just kind of melt away and everything sort of blends together. (And in the case of Frozen, both interpretations promote tolerance and helpfulness. So no one can really complain.)

If you saw or felt that these particular episodes were a commentary that’s weary of the hard-core SJW advocates, that’s great! Whatever floats your boat. But that’s probably not what the filmmakers were trying to comment about when creating those episodes. It seems to just be a story about defending or holding to your own unique individuality, which is an argument I hear from both SJWs and non-SJWs alike. (They both just have different and at times very flawed ways of arguing and defending their viewpoints is all. I honestly can’t stand the extremists of either group.)

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Without spoilers, are fans happy how "Princess Twilight" was done? (Season 3 or 4 OP.) Yeah, catching up to do....

Princess Twilight is pretty cool. I have no complaints either way of that. Sure, her introduction as such seemed a little rushed and a trifle forced, but so did kind of everything in a season that was only 13 episodes long as opposed to the more tradition 26 episodes. (For that show, anyway.) I blame it on the shortness of Season 3 in general, and not on anything that’s unique to the particular episode in which it happened. Or rather, the overall shortcomings of Season 3 is what lead to the complaints about that particular episode. But since that’s the episode where Twilight is suddenly a princess, then that’s the only one many are gonna hear complaints about.

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Postby StarShaper7 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:50 am

The main villain felt pretty SJW-y to me. Self-righteous pony forces others to adhere to her twisted version of equality in order to create a society free of ostracism and the pain that it causes. Her view of equality is "I am right, the people around me think I'm right and you're wrong for disagreeing." She does not believe in the ideology herself, but claims to because it is what appeals most to the group. She turns out to be a hypocrite who does not apply the requirements of this ideology to herself because she actually believes herself to be better than others. Her idea of utopia is where everypony adheres to her ideology, but her true aim is to elevate her status within the community.

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Postby NemZ » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:58 am

I haven't seen it yet, but am I to understand the new pony story is basically "Harrison Bergeron" in pastels with a happier ending?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:58 pm

View Original PostStarShaper7 wrote:The main villain felt pretty SJW-y to me. Self-righteous pony forces others to adhere to her twisted version of equality in order to create a society free of ostracism and the pain that it causes. Her view of equality is "I am right, the people around me think I'm right and you're wrong for disagreeing." She does not believe in the ideology herself, but claims to because it is what appeals most to the group. She turns out to be a hypocrite who does not apply the requirements of this ideology to herself because she actually believes herself to be better than others. Her idea of utopia is where everypony adheres to her ideology, but her true aim is to elevate her status within the community.

That’s just basic, hypocritical, internet debates right there. The fact that this hypocritical argument is applied to an entire society smells of North Korea or the Nazi regime. (Hitler’s Youth needing to be tall, have blond hair, blue eyes, and basically look as little like Hitler as humanly possible.) In that sense, this dictator vibe will always be present in these episodes. SJW jabs, on the other hand, are merely topical and completely forgettable. 5 years from now, no one will see that in this episode anymore.

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Postby Defectron » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:49 am

In the newest episode Fluttershy drew a Rei Ayanami pony (Also utena, Ranma, Bulma and Sailor moon ponys). So how does everyone feel about that?

So does this mean that fluttershy is canonicly an anime fan and by extent an eva fan?
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Postby Sachi » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:04 am

View Original PostDefectron wrote:In the newest episode Fluttershy drew a Rei Ayanami pony (Also utena, Ranma, Bulma and Sailor moon ponys). So how does everyone feel about that?

So does this mean that fluttershy is canonicly an anime fan and by extent an eva fan?

A screenshot from the episode was recently shared here as well: http://forum.evageeks.org/post/810898/Evangelion-References-and-Homages/#810898
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Postby NemZ » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:45 pm

Indeed. If that doesn't confirm the earlier staff thing was an eva reference I don't know what will.

To be clear, that episode (s05e21) hasn't actually aired officially yet... iTunes made it available briefly by mistake.
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Postby Defectron » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:46 pm

So it turns out after all this time the cutie mark crusaders special talent was.......cutie mark crusading....
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Postby NemZ » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:26 pm

...and now Starlight Glimmer can take them away in the finale. :devil:
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