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The Macross Legacy Thread (Incl. +/DYRL/Zero/Seven/Frontier/Δ)

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Postby soul.assassin » Tue May 17, 2011 1:57 am

Since it's obvious that there's a stirring revival and renewed interest in the franchise, and that after I've watched 10 episodes of Frontier (and will go for more), I'd say we start talking here.

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First off is that Cut Magazine June 2011 issue, which I'm very much interested about.
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Postby symbv » Tue May 17, 2011 2:23 am

WoT from Xard can come here. Hurray!!

NB: Perhaps the thread name should have Plus there as well?
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Postby soul.assassin » Tue May 17, 2011 4:00 am

For that magazine, here's a look into their June 2011 issue:
http://ro69.jp/blog/cut/51259

The bulk of the articles will be focused on Macross Frontier, especially the seiyuu interviews.

OBTW, leeching off a few more episodes for tonight. :)

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Postby symbv » Tue May 17, 2011 5:38 am

View Original Postsoul.assassin wrote:For that magazine, here's a look into their June 2011 issue:
http://ro69.jp/blog/cut/51259

The bulk of the articles will be focused on Macross Frontier, especially the seiyuu interviews.


Hmm... Let me see Let me see...

Ano Hana -- Interview of director Tatsuyuki Nagai and seiyuu Ai Kayano (Menma) and Haruka Tomatsu (Anaru).

And more NoitaminA: Interview of director Ei Aoki of Hourou Musuko and the producer of NoitaminA Kouji Yamamoto.

And then interviews with anime personalities who got a high rate of production AND high hit ratio: screenplay writer Mari Okada who participated in Ano Hana AND Hana Iroha (guess he would not disclose if he really wrote Yamakan into Hana Iroha as 2ch suspect); and Akiyuki Shinbou (you know him already).

MacrossF?? soul.assassin already covered that :tongue:
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Tue May 17, 2011 6:53 am

Plus was pretty aight.

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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Tue May 17, 2011 7:31 am

I would kill for a DYRL blu-ray.

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Postby soul.assassin » Tue May 17, 2011 7:36 am

Impressions after watching 10 episodes: I'd say it's so damn addicting to watch.

I mean, as I said before MF carries all the requisite ingredients of a epic blockbuster, properly selected and measured, before they're combined and then cooked to perfection, fresh and hot...

Not just that, it's like I'm this boy who, from the seedy streets of Hell's Kitchen, walked into the lights and glamor of 1939 New York's World Fair with a golden ticket in hand.

Frontier, IMHO a full-blown overhaul of that 1982 classic, has everything: tons of "service", moe, action, comedy, romance, drama, music (yes, the MUSIC), politics, and space combat on a grand scale. Even if I watched the first 10 episodes on a very low resolution and in FLV format (for economic and technical reasons), it's still astounding in scale.

*sigh*

This. Epic. Will. Be. Treasured. On. My. Shelf.

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Postby symbv » Tue May 17, 2011 7:51 am

Anybody who wants to read my "stream-of-consciousness" impressions that I wrote down at the same time WHILE I WAS WATCHING THE MACROSS FRONTIER SHOW can check the following

viewtopic.php?p=431563#431563 Ep 1
viewtopic.php?p=432425#432425 Ep 2-8
viewtopic.php?p=433048#433048 Ep 9-16

I was asked by Xard to hold back posting the impressions of Ep.17-36 until he approved so they are not posted yet. ;)
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Postby Xard » Tue May 17, 2011 7:57 am

View Original Postsymbv wrote:I was asked by Xard to hold back posting the impressions of Ep.17-36 until he approved so they are not posted yet. ;)


whaaaat? I thought you said you stopped writing those detailed ep-by-ep commentaries, and then the pm exchanges ended up taking all the time afterwards. If you have them (I swear you said something about dropping doing that sort of commentary) do whatever you want :lol:

Frontier, IMHO a full-blown overhaul of that 1982 classic, has everything: tons of "service", moe, action, comedy, romance, drama, music (yes, the MUSIC), politics, and space combat on a grand scale. Even if I watched the first 10 episodes on a very low resolution and in FLV format (for economic and technical reasons), it's still astounding in scale.

*sigh*

This. Epic. Will. Be. Treasured. On. My. Shelf.


Heh, yeah. Why I love it so much is pretty much all here :lol:

If at all possible you really should see/hear series in better quality though...

as for "the MUSIC", I recommend getting the Vocal Collection at least after finishing series. It's more than worth it :P
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Postby symbv » Tue May 17, 2011 8:00 am

View Original PostXard wrote:whaaaat? I thought you said you stopped writing those detailed ep-by-ep commentaries, and then the pm exchanges ended up taking all the time afterwards


As I said I wrote them down while I was watching the show, so the raw material was always there. Since you wanted to double-check I did not make any misinterpretation about the last part you wanted me to talk in pm. And then the discussion went on and on and on... :p

Perhaps I should just post the raw material anyway, as I do not think I got anything wrong when I watched the show....
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Postby Xard » Tue May 17, 2011 8:02 am

View Original Postsymbv wrote:As I said I wrote them down while I was watching the show, so the raw material was always there. Since you wanted to double-check I did not make any misinterpretation about the last part you wanted me to talk in pm. And then the discussion went on and on and on... :p

Perhaps I should just post the raw material anyway, as I do not think I got anything wrong when I watched the show....


Well, as said (edited), do what you want but ofc preferrably in spoiler tags... because spoilers are unavoidable!
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Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

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Macross Frontier remarks Ep.17-25

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Postby symbv » Tue May 17, 2011 8:53 am

View Original PostXard wrote: If you have them (I swear you said something about dropping doing that sort of commentary) do whatever you want :lol:


Don't think I said I stopped writing the commentary but I did say I stopped fine-tuning the rough notes I wrote down, so the material is indeed RAW stuff.

Anyway, I just post it here as they are lying around here already. Give it some leeway though because it is really more like rough sketches (I may have already forgotten why I wrote some of them :sweat: ):

SPOILER: Show

Ep.17 Goodbye Sister

1st Live Revenge (Ranka)
never eaten pineapple cake
niichan!! attack oishikunai

Seikan Hiko OP (Ranka only)
Super MOE - what a waste one ep OP cheap? moe power
keitai moe, nyan nyan moe, maguro maju moe

Cathy has such authority?

that pill was taken from ....?

Klan Klan super moe!! tsundere tsundere
Teresa -- of cousre she got angry !!
Ozma vs Cathy dareka-san
bed scene...
another guy song (really Ozma's episode)
Alto consultation - sneak in
Sheryl poster, ai-kun again
fold paper plane again?? for ai-kun moe - eat apaper

Fold quartz -- finally identified purple stone
Birla to monopolize communication and freight with a type of crystal? Dune's guild
Grace became a guy? that's her new body?

Vajra carcass in research center - fold quartz related
Brera is everywhere (or shadow?)
unintentionally funny - phone rings during stalemate

Nanase as costume designer?
Luka not paying attention
carrot and stick -- vs Vajra?
skin-shedding to guard against reaction weapon?
revelaton of evolving Vajra (hard to beat collective entity)
-> how did Brebra know?
What kind of GAR stuff was Ozma saying??!!?? lol
- guy song again!!! enka daro
- show love towards Cathy

did not expect all could actually attend 1st live !!
- last happy moment for everyone?
- not trying to catch Cathy's hint...
- that alien egg (vajra)
- dead flag ha ha ha....
- dead would be the most moving moment...
- if Ozma did not die, who would die?? dreadful thought

Grace vs Sheryl

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Ep.18 Fold Fame

Grace now being mean to Sheryl
Galaxy slum child !!! -> shocking death verdict

LION kita~~~~ seen the OP so many times
- finally a rivalry of Sheryl/Ranka is established
Brera sinking with red ribbons?

Operation Cinderella's Horn
Leon being cold towards Luka

long-lasting disease -- ? what was done to her?

new land - true mission
Frontier Convoy 7th Ultra Long-Distance Fold Project (operation cinderella's horn)
- fold execution brought forward by almost 6 months (fold quartz?)
- squeeze all energy (and economy activities) for this
Bobby pre-fold sales? (what was the background song? ninjin?)
- because commerce will be limited ?
Vajra reacts to reflection engine and fold wave
- interesting apple sculpture
- to draw vajra out and destroy them?
- Ozma knew what ranka's memory was?

Sheryl - receptor blocker - only ease the symptom - side effect: fever vomit chill
V-type infection (hydra) - blood and bodily fluid? AIDS?
Klan Klan now is jealous of Sheryl (after Teresa) ! Nice body... :)
Nature -> Cosmo Nature? 2047 Nov
> Mao Nome 117th convey doctor (Zero!)
- Rashei Mei, Grace O'Connor (author has pictures!)
2053 patient report
so Sheryl went to school library to check for herself

Battle Frontier - fold wave amp (can protect?) 30 pinpoint barriers

because I am Sheryl Nome -- really stubborn isn't she?

Exactly because you care for someone, there is something you cannot say, but there is something we can do

Sheryl CM break - Sheryl version of Aimo?

rain + sheryl / alto + ranka press conference ++ DYRL song

what? not Alto ?!?!?
become a hostage for Saotome

crew girl and bobby fought over spandex??

What kind of dress does Brera wear? Exposing mid part of chset and the belly?

actually it must be Ranka, right? even reaction weaponry is no use -- use knife?

what? pinup ranka??

ozma got live broadcast of ranka?

main gun powerful!! ranka felt pain?
ultra long dist fold can let plane rest?
Ranka sang the original version... nice...


Ep.19 Triangular

All vajra are green colored - Brera, Ranka and Ai-kun !!

OP -- Ranka seeing Sheryl in her mirror image
- Ranka is more clumsy than Sheryl

wow, big deal - Aimo Memorial Day Parade! Ranka float!
> nice copy
> war heroine! the fold is to escape Vajra?
> No security details to watch Ranka?!? so Brera is the accomplice
> just big glasses will do?
> ai-kun -> cat

Alto -> sneak into Saotome and be found !! good understander
- well said, pass the threshold which you vowed never to cross

Charting unexplored stellar regions --> so the fold is very unplanned

Cathy & Ozma (what's that song in the background?)
- pretended date interesting!
- back to SF but does it have a Japan town like that?
- even with big kabuki ads
- If Cathy is followed by Leon's men, yabakunai?

What a coincidence: Brera & Ranka, Mikhail & Klan (loli date, dareka-san again)

After mistaking that guy as Alto, now we have Alto mistaking Sheryl as his mojm??

Just for Ai-kun, jeopordizing the concert?

Japanese garden
serious talk between Alto and Sheryl - Galactic Nymph
- asking her to come just becos he is doing flying stunts?

miniaturization of Dimension Ether - MDE bomb (using fold quartz)
mystery of the Queen

Haa? Bobby for CM break?! NINJIN..?

again pinpointing it's a performance
Alto's mom -- Kabuki stage
- sweet poison comparing kabuki with concert performance fever/arousal, attention, all-controlling
- how come he is more convincing than Alto?

What evidence have Cathy and Ozma gathered?
Brera never pat on people's head? cyborg
Brera now looks kind...
For whom do you sing? want to communicate to everyone (but actually it's Alto in her memory)
suddenly jumped into the middle of concert
- Seikan Hikou
Mikhail knows Luca doing something by himself
RANKA heart with an arrow on the sky
Sheryl hiding behind a tree... why Klan is around (since when she's there)
- Dokun song (new song) swinging tentacles?
Mikhail to Alto: at some point, being dense is same as being cruel.
- precisely, communicate to everyone = singing only for Alto !!
- Mikhail triple-timing qudruiple-timing? seems that he really dated some girls and then make a clean break?
- pilot is a dangerous job
Klan brought Sheryl here...
Finally Luca is able to identify the real identity of Ai-kun (vajra larvae)!!
- Ai-kun is growing to adult phase
Cathy herself went to arrest Leon??
- malfeasance - Secrets Preservation Act, civil disturbance (coup)
- assassination, finally death of
nice follow - everyone wants to love somebody
- Luka comes to the roof... as destiny would have it... to tell my feeling

earlier OP as ED !! only this ep? Should have guessed as it is the ep title
- new animation also focus on Sheryl and Ranka


Ep.20 Diamond Crevasse

rerun of Ep.19
still stubborn - don't lie to yourself, tell the diffrence between real and fake
oh, I thought they were embracing when Ranka bumped in?
Klan pressed for Mikhail
gomenasai, slip down stairs, want to die
I thought the assassin would succeed? But he wsa eaten by the vajra...
2nd stage vajra, more than one? why?
- isn't it a bit stupid to arrest the head of a coup without any backup force??
calling off marriage
- how easy for Cathy and Ozma to escape
minna no tame ni utau - became Shinji !!!! I cannot sing !!! slapping time !! (at last not from a man)
- you are a pro, do what you can, your voice has power
singing Aimo OC will hurt her body? becaome violent? emotiona level -7.3
locusts of vajra?? 11yrs ago
- unpredicted event?
- Defold of vajra even after a long fold??
sms base has fold wave amp
- ok, have to separate Sheryl off...
- warm hand brought back memory of young Brera?
how did Vajra destroy the warship Akizuki Ghouchin

Klan CM break + Mikhail + their mecha

Where was Brera when Vajra started their attack?
Antares One = Brera?
oh, they can communicate in 3D vision?
Little Queen = Ranka?
Force Mode means a mode that can force Brera to do her bidding?
- can remote control VF-27 !
govt power transferred to Battle Frontier
kill president in front of Leon himself
- Annie killed, when did she speak last time? why Mikhail so attached?
nobody guarded the secret passage? Cathy found his dad dead
- Where is your heart? MIA currently searching it, not sure if it even exist,
- naked Klan, hit and first kiss, exactly because of this time, all infront of Alto and Ranka
- dead flag? how can I fall in love when I'm so afraid of dying
citizen disillusion
- even if it means giving my life, songs reach people...
- sing at this moment?? sing admist despair? a bit odd...? singing a love song/// gaclactic fairy sayonara...
song + battle
Fold Wave Amp. If you really care about someone you would give his life
locust - vajra -- it is Mikahil who died !!!! song stopped at this time.
- finally confessed .. even his body was drifted out to space !!! Too cruel !!
ascii art
why he was picked?
why sent his corpse out to space?

Why is this ep. called Diamond Crevasse? Because the song is used as ED
only Mikhail's glasses left


Ep.21 Blue Ether

it's my turn
Battle Frontier departure

Klan badass (has to be) -- she is in Island 3 now? (Zentradi for tourism and agriculture)
- if reaction weaponry does not work, how come normal guns is ok, because they are not yet fully grown?
I thought the vajra came from ai-kun... how could the vajra have folded long D as well?
"acting president" -- captain clearly does not like Leon

Little Girl - consume space with 50 km radius (LAI developed fold bomb)
- forgot Nanase already wounded ! therefore Luka's plan
- good point about Mikhail and ecosystem, battle for existence
- singing for war is tough; hard fate hard fate
- take Vajra to island 3 ??
- Brera knows she does not want to sing... always disappearing for so long...opportune moment
- the song did not reach him but singing is what that person wants
- how come Sheryl can hear her song (without broadcast)
- and she is not even singing the OC version...
- Ranka escape (thank you) sacrifice too great..

Luka/Nanase CM break

- the flamethrower against Vajra: shades of battle of Okinawa?
- Leon gave a decent speech though at funeral
- Ozma missing (to escape)
- Ranka refuse to sing (mentally weak)
ai-kun actually not turned adult yet!! 2nd stage -> 3rd stage
- how to fold paper planes (so indirect) goodbye flags??
what made you want to fly? mom is weak and always look at the sky; I want to see a real sky beatiful and free sky
blush face of Ranka !!
everyone wants to live free
as long as vajra exists Frontier will be a battlefield any peace flag?
Brera intervened!! I will grant your desire. Vajra can pick the paper plane.
leave letters to Nanase and Ozma
- return ai-kun?? so much attachment to a pet?? more than Alto ????? go with you... becos of her memory?
- Brera is a professional soldier? he can fly to Vajra just like that?
* new song aoi tabiji -> go on as ED again the title is the song's name
ED footage looks new
> goodbye flag (close card)
Note: A most naive idea by Ranka. We can only believe that she is making a wise decision by the fact that she is a lead character and so cannot do wrong. But why abandoned her friends and the people in Frontier when all were looking up to her to counter Vajra. It gave the impression that she was running away because she thought she had "lost" Alto. And she even tried to ask Alto to do the same with her (thus pulling him away from Sheryl). At the end Alto seemed to act maturer, and it gave another opportunity for Brera to act cool. Of course I had to believe that Ranka was not doing it for herself and she sincerely believed she could talk to Vajra but at this stage I must say that the facts presented so far did not make it look a wise move.


Ep. 22 Northern Cross

must likely the ED is the song title...
- ok now Grace and Leon talk about Brera's unauthorized action...
- seems like Leon really tries to do something about Frontier, not just for mere power
ecological maintenance unit 3 months we have
-Grace is prepared to abandon Leon soon
Leon contacts Birla

new model of Valkyrie? jam fold wave in 100km radius, new warheads MDE rounds - micro particles extracted from Vajra bodies , VF-171x !
- what should I tell Nanase, betray us and help Vajra escape

so president is indirectly elected, selected by the Assemby as 5th president
- how long is the term?
Hey, after Ranka left, then it's Sheryl to exploit the chance!
- look sadder
* new song? by the way what happened to her illness?
fold wave -- substitute of Ranka?
Bobby could find them, but not the security of Leon????
charity concert, love is song song is love, change manager -- Ranka's original one

Klan - should have been honest, but never took the first step
Finally Cathy and Ozma met captain !
- how come it's Bobby who comforted Cathy? man-of-man Ozma, huh?
Ranka's letter, regain her memory, find out the truth 11yr ago
SMS owner Birla contact, dismantled SMS and incorporated into UN military
Sheryl: 17 yr ago caught V-type infection and became carrier, from body fluid of vajra
- blood and body fluid... VD? after early stage, attach to brain and produce a toxin
- but under this condition, voice has a faint fold wave (that's why Grace picked her at first?)
- fold quartz earring amplified it (she got it from her mother? why did she end up in slum ?)
sing for humanity
so Sheryl now stays at Saotome's? Where was her original home in Frontier?
Alto finally decided to confess to Sheryl? (Klan)

sent -- see the real enemy? to all in SMS...
there is a tombstone for Mikhail
have nothing but singing -- stop enough - you are the one I least want to tell
don't have to force smile, don't have to sing -- is it that difficult to sing for war?
I have to sing, the only proof that I'm alive, scared and lonely, stay by your side,
give me courage -- KISS ?? or something else :naughty:

Ranka floating in space
She can read Vajra's mind??
come to kill Grace -- only need one leader (smart for Leon, but..)
Vajra must be wiped out -- Holdy war for humanity's future (powerful speech)
70% crew join the mutiny (pirate)... (macross quarter) Is it the intention of Birla?
Kanaria -- left Eddie behind??
who was that woman? Klan?
Leon pushed Birla so as to prove SMS' loyalty? guilt confirmed, a trap
- Galactic Nymph Sheryl Nome
A pursuit squadron -- civil war? 4th fighter wing (skull-3 4 IFF's) why get them to stop Qurater??
song again -- leading to ED?

Luka is not on board yet? where is Alto?
when everyone turns to the right, it's my nature to want to take another look from the leftwoman I love

Safety Zone? what is safety zone?
Really launched missile, it's civil war ! Alto & Luka vs Ozma - best way to protect the
- man of man, I am not an adult I AM A MAN :lol: :lol:
Wow, a face/off stalemate situation (ozma vs brera)
- ranka chose her path, i will choose mine, and where do you go?
pursuit failed

as expected title becomes the song at last part which went straight to ED

epilogue - back to earth?? where queen of vajra resides?
Grace killed everyone (breasts become bigger? )


Ep.23 True Begin (Engrish!!)

combine implant network theory and Vajra's zero-time fold communications
Grace vs Ranshe (affected by V-infection)
Ranka is Ranshe's daughter? Brera is brother?
promotion card is Ranka this time

abandon 2 more island - environment equilibrium curve past the point of self-renewability
cramped, stuffy, a cage...
comic relief - asking squadron leader about dating Sheryl??
- Valkyrie Pilot Jinx? death flag?? Sheryl waving hands!
oxygen masks needed...
- luxurious dinner, fresh food, champagne (drinking age? - ok, carbonate drunk, eh?) death flag?
hold her to room -- whose room is that then? no longer at Saotome?

sadness of cyborg - no memory, command is absolute, but ranka's song has an effect
only memory is the song -- like Ranka
* AIMO - harmonica
Macross Quarter found Ranka... Frontier also find - home planet
> for fold quartz? for survival? Vajra using Ranka?
How can Ranka be so sure human and Vajra are compatible?
Vajra does not have brain, and use a network of instestinal germs that emit fold waves for communication
- no concept of self, one creature in one swarm, a network lifeform sustained by fold waves
- the germ will only attack human's brains...
- ranka infected before birth in mother's uterus and chose symbiosis with the Vajra
(since when Leon knew all this? He was still asking Ranka to sing just before her running away)
- Ranka is the connection between Vajra and human, and its vanguard of human's destruction?
(Ranka even putting her brother at grave risk -- what a stupid decision she made)
-finally remember he is her brother...
-Grace also found Brera, cutting tracer would not do..
-and now Brera is reminded of her being his sister (thankfully they did not develop any romantic relationship, thank god)
he got some device switched on...

- symptom supppressant can slow the progression (why stop taking medicine)
if you want to use someone as a tool, better be cold as ice till the end
being kind is a sin
Alto's father - you changed if you see your father being so small
Final plea - pls return; if I don't fight they will all die vs is it really the path you want?
He opens his eyes!! He is in serious mode!! you fight only because you were swept up by events but not to kill
you are an actor through and through, you act the role expected of the moment, you are able to perform
your desire, your
ranka's painting.. Klan

Ranka captured in Vajra's home planet
young Ranka see the old Macross fell on her planet because she called the Vajra... Little Queen

Klan's notification... why did you join SMS? my family traditon so no question
thought I'm actor, aiming for the sky and left home to become a pilot
chose to join SMS to protect her
running away, pretending not to know
a puny world which can be destroyed by the slightest imbalance, but everyone's living here
I will kill Ranka if she becomes a tool of Vajra to destroy us
Sheryl -- I always knew, just a little longer (she is dying?)

class-A habitable planet 30 light years jump to Vajra homeworld
Sheryl flying paper plane
back to Northern Cross as ED


Ep. 24 Last Frontier

young Ranka Aimo... how come Ranka was living there? your song called them... brother got caught by Vajra
- it's all your fault. you can atone, open your mind and body..
Ozma coming back ?
sponsor card Alto

2040 first contact, 2048 (11 yrs ago - now is 2059) 117th survery captured a Vajra
- using her real name to board Frontier (how come possible)
led by Mao Nome, protoculture research "Bird Human"
- Regarding the Possibilities of Super-Dimensional Networking through Fold Quartz and Implant Techonology
- Ranshe Mei's treatment records - first patient of V-type infection before Ranka was born (AIDS?) how come she is the only one?
- galaxy size real-time implanet network, using fold quartz as the core - massively parallel thought network
good joke Bobby - cannot think private thought in a thought network
- not totally equal, hub terminal will have dominance over others, and the center is completely superior
- implanting the whole humanity: death for those who resist; subordination for those who accept
vajra can leap across fold faults easily - human has no way to oppose
the key is a human who can communicate with vajra
*talk talk talk*
Brera now under total control of Grace
vajra network quantum protocol 92.3% complete - by passing it thru human consciousness to make it analysisable
(how come Grace become a cyborg in the first place?)
human surpass protoculture
Macross Quarter sent the facts to new UN -- but Leon would not try to pre-empt that?
* captain and monica / cathy and ozma
letter to Dr.Mao - grandchild get the earring (but how did the earring come into being in the first place?)
- human endeavour: love bond children, song and culture pass on; what it means to live

Frontier folded 50000 vajra bfore, defeat the nerve center the queen and land island-1 new homeland
- Galactic Nymph Sheryl Nome guide to our victory
big Klan has such big breasts? I cannot just walk away
Dimension Cutter 97% complete - I love you Nanase-san... kiss on mouth
move every non-combat person to island-1
- Leon looks cool! we have to survive, the planet is last frontier for us
- Birla want to see whom? Fold waves overcome time and the law of causality
- the cosmetic table and mirror in the OP!!
so Alto came to Sheryl - I am coming back and I will survive
A person can't fly alone; a person mustn't fly alone you are so dense
end of pretending lovers, and then surprised Alto to give him a kiss.. the sky was so beautiful out there.. GJ GJ GJ
don't say anything, because whatever you say I know I won't be able to sing; when everything's over you can tell me the rest
pls save ranka..give her one earring -- how about the power of fold quartz???
remember this - 'cause you almost never find a woman as good as me!
** girly Alto !!! glittering earring!

go out in a blaze of glory, no nagging thought, only music
- jump out so cool - how she change clothes in mid-air?
finally we heard alto's father!
** music + fighting OP song
vajra unable to coordinate...speed drop 1/3 extermination
Alto/Luka Klan/Nene
Grace is now able to control Ranka --- atonement. breaking up
** DYRL !!! what a song to pick -- such tragic
coordination how she got project on space??? vajra combat strength increasing...
BETRAYER !!! amplified by vajra network
Since when Sheryl took off her clothes!! Too hot?
battleship broken... Queen belongs to me... get away from my little sister... death flag?!? our mission
protect vajra from invaders...you were the attackers... you came into our space first
Sagittarius-1 DEATH OF ALTO ???? Deliberate cliffhanger -- it can be good end or bad end at this point

real life footage of album

Note: If Ranka running away is her most naive move, I would say Sheryl giving the earring to Alto is her most naive move. She knows the fold crystal earring boasts her power of singing against Vajra and still she gave half of the crystal to Alto? What if this ended up weakening Sheryl's singing power and then got Alto killed? Of course it later helped Alto communicate with Ranka and Sheryl but how could Sheryl have known it in the first place?

Ep. 25 The sound of you

Macross Quarter came to the rescue!
ozma - skull 3 squadron leader
Galaxy's ambition -- manipulated
Skull-4 IFF
Alto survived !! What game they played with us! shoot that facade -- it was Galaxy !!!
Leon arrested
Galaxy's Ghost V9 -- so the whole Galaxy has become a network?
use your song to wake her up
** song + fighting change clothes again?
your heart was screaming - help - kabuki let feelings led the way
Klan becomes sniper music footage quite cool
SYstem judah
take back your true song -- how the controller got broken???
connected -- intense fold wave -- network structure in galaxy
thru the power which even the protoculture sought, admired, deified and mimicked the form of, the super-dimensional lifeform -
connected directly to the queen, songs are meaningless
vajra is just a faithful claw
- Macross 11, Macross City / Earth mass attack
* anata no oto song as ED
- seems deux ex machina -- Brera broke the control by some lucky shot ??? It is just as likely he could be killed by now (and what would happen to Ranka in this case?)
put all your feelings to the song....
stop this fight and it is our atonement
vajra stopped, beat the fold wave created by vajra queen! stand up, sheryl, like a godess Rei
- ranka claps sheryl this time!!! fold communication
becos of you we can fly, alto can fly, you won't give up, I also will not give up, you are my wings
let's fly again
3 in 1 trinity red green blue
* OP song LION
vajra are not our true enemy, galaxy and grace are our true enemy
Macross Quarter -- main cannon BOBBY IS COOL
saved Ranka
- mass attack II (island-1 hit) vajra took the hit ai-kun finally understands.
vajra have feeling. cannot understand why humans are so chaotic, everyone doing different things
trying to rescue Ranka (fold wave) from the bizzare human race
vajra learns by sheryl's singing that each human is different, that we are creatures who can't get along unless we clearly communicate our feelings (Mikhail)
- OP sheryl
TALK TALK
- seikan hikou
- no yo uno life
queen's protocol not working, fault field , vajra open a hole - main cannon damaged
MACROSS ATTACK -- multiple missiles
take the gun
MEDLEY
ultimate of human evolution, sacrfice the vajra
Brera support -- aim at the queen tummies
human are always alone. becos we are alone, then we can love someone (EVA) LION
Mikhail's sniper gun
Earth is quiet ...
AIMO vajra planet -> anata anata my dear my dear
what was the song for? A love song? hundred of millions to mate with another swarm...
BIRLA wants to meet MINMEI ???
Ranka and Sheryl and alto , a real sky earring LION
I won't give up in singing and love -- take challenge...where it begins
ozma and cathy
klan luka and nanase
brera
END ***
A most happy ending given what happened in the last few episodes (and the forever death-flag moments).
Everybody survived (except Mikhail). Even Leon was only arrested. Nobody was a traitor.
As predicted very early in the show, it will be Sheryl and Alto pairing but the show tried to keep it nice just to give Ranka fans some hope (and is good for selling the movies)
Things were close though because anything could have gone wrong and the ending would become a tragic one.
Another gripe would be the suddenly found ability of Ranka to cure Sheryl -- she is now holy virgin of the network !! And BTW how did Ranka break the Grace's network's control?? That seems arbitrary...
Anyway, a good trip through and through. But I want Mikhail back (and more Klan Klan) !!!

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Postby Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion » Tue May 17, 2011 9:05 am

How I rank the franchise:

Zero > 7 > 7: The Galaxy's Calling Me > Frontier > Original Series > 2 > Frontier: False Songstress > DYRL > 7 Encore > Plus > Dynamite 7 > Plus Movie > XX > All Variable Fighters Air Show > Flashback 2012

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Postby soul.assassin » Tue May 17, 2011 1:35 pm

SPOILER: Show
Mishima's a fucking snake, and so is Grease.

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Postby Xard » Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 pm

Grace, unless that was intentional :P
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby soul.assassin » Tue May 17, 2011 1:58 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:Grace, unless that was intentional :P


I did. :lol: Watching 21 now.

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Postby Xard » Tue May 17, 2011 5:24 pm

View Original Postsoul.assassin wrote:I did. :lol: Watching 21 now.


Jeeeeeesus you're fast. Already at the epic Lion phase of the series, hell yeah. Ikinokoritai!

Come to think of it, episodes 20 and 21 have my favourite final scenes and favourite songs playing in them in a row. Well in addition to Aimo tori no hito, Ai Oboete Imasuka? bless the little queen ver and Medley, though those come two ccome later... Oh, and they're my favourite eps to boot, excluding the Finale of course. Can't top that one.

Can't wait your reaction to end of ep 24...

and woah, symbv's commentary was indeed raw and at times illegible. Well, at least it was certainly funny read :lol:

Seikan Hiko OP (Ranka only)
Super MOE - what a waste one ep OP cheap? moe power
keitai moe, nyan nyan moe, maguro maju moe


hell yeah :lol:

Initially Lion was ment to debut at ep 16 (as that's when the shift in mood starts to really happen) but due to production difficulties had to be pushed all the way back to ep 18. Ep 17 opening was quickly put together as apology for fans for having to wait yet another week


What kind of dress does Brera wear? Exposing mid part of chset and the belly?


best thing films did to Brera's character was to stop dressing him like a manslut. Seriously. Since VA was Jesus Yamato I'm pretty sure this was some fujoshi pandering most of all :P

** girly Alto !!! glittering earring!

and it looks better on him than on Sheryl! Always did!

real life footage of album

ahh, so you didn't realize it was SDF Macross ending homage


MACROSS ATTACK -- multiple missiles

(FINALE SPOILERS)

HEEEEELLLLLL YEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH YOU ARE THE BEST MOMENT IN THE WHOLE SHOW :guitarpunk:

oh, and it was funny you noticed the thematic parallel that really made me go "loleva" in finale too :lol:

SPOILER: Show

human are always alone. becos we are alone, then we can love someone (EVA) LION

Combine that together with Grace's [s]SEELE[/s] cybercult and lolhivemind aims for mankind and yeah, there's some notable overlap here indeed.

It's just that instead of mindfuck Kawamori filled the series with j-pop :lol:


Fun read, all in all :P
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Tue May 17, 2011 8:15 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:Plus was pretty aight.
indeed, really sweet soundtrack and a fresh, interesting spin on the very tired mecha genre

it's basically...
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Top Gun replaced with flying mechas meets 2001 with a female, holographic HAL 9000 playing pop star, how does that NOT sound fantastic?!
it also inspired one of my all-time favorite AMV's
- TEH Fabulous Hal E. Burton 9000

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Postby symbv » Tue May 17, 2011 8:56 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:real life footage of album

ahh, so you didn't realize it was SDF Macross ending homage


Thanks for the reminder. Now I remember! And that is a really lovely ED song that has that warm glowing 70s feel (yes the show was 80s but this tune was 70s). I love this better than the OP song (though I always pick the OP instead in karaoke :lol: )
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Postby soul.assassin » Tue May 17, 2011 9:29 pm

Finished Ep. 23 and saving the last two for tonight.

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As it is plot, most of our heroes haven't pieced in the info to realize the extent of the treachery that has resulted in total disaster and cost many lives, including that of Michael Blanc and one of Klan Klan's wingmen.

Now in his toxic arrogance Mishima (that fucking two-faced asshole) is about to go head-on against O'Connor's (yeah, she earned her Ph.D. from Voldemort's University of Darkness) private army, whom she'd built up in more than a decade, preparing for what could possibly be a no-prisoners full-on hostile takeover (shades of the Zerg, eh?).

Hooboy... everything is coming together, and it's going to be a steel-filled shitstorm of +9000 proportions.


And by the way...

SPOILER: Show
What luck Michael had.... He got more than an eyeful of Klan Klan in undies, only to be unlucky to get himself offed while saving her in the miclone room.


And when I saw this look on her face the first thing in my mind was:

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Ranka: What should I do?
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Kyuubey: If you want to do something, you must make a contract with me!

:rofl:
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