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Postby TheFriskyIan » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:27 am

View Original Postsoul.assassin wrote:It's been a few days Ryzen came out and most people dissed on it just because it's a few figures short of Intel's i7-7700K.

The problem is the hype surrounding it led people blow it out of proportion and make it seem like it's a bleeding edge performance chip. My brother is notorious for this as the weeks leading up to Ryzen he was spouting put nonsense how it'll blow the 7700k out of the water (the darn thing loses to even a 6800k on certain benchmarks). He did the same with their 400 series video cards last year, then went silent when it couldn't stand up to a 1080. AMD has and always will be a price performance company, Intel/Nvidia will always be the top dog.
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Postby soul.assassin » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:18 pm

Too easy to say they're on top because they're also on recommendations by any Tom, Dick and Harry for years, even though some people will have to fork over more money for the GPU just to show they have more balls. Sometimes I had to laugh at those who are judging anything on the basis of how much framerates they'll produce. Honestly, I play games that have real replay value.

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Postby MAGI_01 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:23 am

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:The problem is the hype surrounding it led people blow it out of proportion and make it seem like it's a bleeding edge performance chip. My brother is notorious for this as the weeks leading up to Ryzen he was spouting put nonsense how it'll blow the 7700k out of the water (the darn thing loses to even a 6800k on certain benchmarks). He did the same with their 400 series video cards last year, then went silent when it couldn't stand up to a 1080. AMD has and always will be a price performance company, Intel/Nvidia will always be the top dog.


A lot of people fail to understand that Ryzen was positioned to compete with Broadwell E and Haswell E and it does that very well. Broadwell E and Haswell E are not the best gaming chips out there as my 4690k will outrun a buddy of mines 5820k due to a pure clock speed advantage while gaming. Neither of us have overclocked machines either. Of course we have to wait and see what the lower core count chips will do, but at this point the R7 line up provides a great alternative to the X99 platform which is great news to me as I was looking at building an X99 machine sometime in the future.

AMD needs to hammer away at Intel's bottom line to force them to lower prices which, they have already announced. Intel may be still the holder of the crown but they have become fat and lazy again, much like the P4 era when the A64 came out and destroyed it in every way possible. The only reason why AMD did not capture more market than they should have was due to Intel strong arming OEMs to exclusively use Intel.

Ryzen marks a return to competitiveness which the industry seriously needs. Now Vega just needs to be a 1080Ti competitor and AMD will be very well poised. I was a huge AMD supporter for years until recently when the FX line did literally nothing for me, so for the first time ever I have an Intel machine. As long as Ryzen and it's successors continue to gain ground and be a strong competitor, I will jump back to AMD in the future.
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Postby soul.assassin » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:45 am

It just made better sense to wait and see rather than blindly throw money at something which may make things worse. If I was lucky to buy an RX470 after several years with an HD7750, unimpressed with the R7s and R9s, I also thought it wise enough that I held onto the Athlon II since 2012 (briefly I tried an APU and got terrible stuttering; later been considering about switching over to Intel) and wait until something like the Ryzen coming out to turn things around.

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Postby MAGI_01 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:22 pm

Yeah. My best friend had his laptop die on him and I gave him my old Phenom II build and it's done him quite well and now he is looking at a Ryzen build. Sure it was and is quite dated by today's standards, but it still runs very well and does everything he needs it to do.

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That is good to hear. That is one of my first go to's now days when a machine is giving start up issues. That and power supplies because I have seen enough power supplies at work be very slow to start which is probably due to a bad capacitor. Our Arcade cabinets that are just PC's in fancy cabinets are set to boot when power is supplied so if we notice a very long delay until one starts, or some other odd issue, it's usually a safe bet the PS is going bad and I have yet to see where that is not the case.
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Postby soul.assassin » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:18 pm

Oh, wow. Hella way to sell an operating system that not everyone likes. I don't like Win10 because it gimps VRAM for older games to 4gb, asides from privacy concerns and forced updates.

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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:53 am

Yeah, W10 is a fucking dumpster fire, also Cortana mysteriously reinstalled herself after decrapping my W10 using a script I found on github. Also seems to have problems with Wi-Fi but that's not a Windows exclusive issue.

One of the scary extras is that telemetry actually learns your typing patterns (unless youre some kind of 10key system crazy person) so they could theoretically see which university/work computers youve been using when and for what.

I bought a W10 OEM key in anticipation for Witcher 3 and I regret every second.

I really hope Vulkan replaces DX completely in the future so Windows (at least in its current form) is an option, not an absolute must.

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Postby BobBQ » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:00 pm

View Original PostInstrumentalityOne wrote:I bought a W10 OEM key in anticipation for Witcher 3 and I regret every second.

Witcher 3 runs just fine on W7, though?

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Postby soul.assassin » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:20 pm

View Original PostBobBQ wrote:Witcher 3 runs just fine on W7, though?


Truth is, W7 is far more lenient on games than W10; I can play games old and new. I'm considering about getting a Ryzen to complete my build but Microsoft wants to end W7 support for newer hardware. Duh, fortunately hardware manufacturers still make drivers for older operating systems, WHQL or not.

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