Evas, Angels, and thine ego

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Postby TheMessiah » Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:26 am

now, this was a post of mine on Gaia, so Asuka, you dont need to read it

but i dont think it was picked apart enough, if at all


TheMessiah wrote:that AT field is the projection of ones ego. take me for example, i seem to be entirely arrogant and as thus have a big ego, aka, AT field. i am able to effectively push a lot of people away.

the angels had amazing AT fields becuase they knew nothing but the eraication of others. also why im assuming they never attacked in pairs. in consideration we are all angels. they are of different forms. as such, would not they fight as well.

somthing that was probly brought to mind was the fact of why are they not fighting each other instead of us. im guessing this is due to our number. take out the biggest threat so we can have a better fight



doesnt give the whole thought, but im sure you can patch a few of the needed ideas, if not, ask and i shall give thee
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Postby Crazyman42 » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:22 am

Interesting, I always thought ones kAT-field was prjected by love. If the AT-field was powered by wouldn't Shinji's be extremly weak? Though it would explain why Asuka was able to destroy all the eva's in EOE.
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Postby Asuka Langley » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:24 pm

TheMessiah wrote:now, this was a post of mine on Gaia, so Asuka, you dont need to read it

but i dont think it was picked apart enough, if at all


doesnt give the whole thought, but im sure you can patch a few of the needed ideas, if not, ask and i shall give thee

Yes, but I will read it again.
I thought it was an interesting, not to mention different, opinion about the whole AT Field thing.
There's a few occasions in the series that actually make this more plausible.
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Postby TheMessiah » Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:53 pm

thanks, you should post your mommy dearest theory as well, might get some better responses
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Postby sadsadshinji » Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:06 pm

didnt they state that the AT field was an actual term in some science? and the AT field seems to be a projection of the soul...not love ex: Rei attacking Zeruel: she projected a massive AT field to neutralize the angel's but didnt have her mother in the eva (no mom...unless naoko counts)

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Postby TheMessiah » Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:28 pm

AT means Absolute Terror.

to me that means the fear of being completely open and readable to another



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Postby EVA-01X » Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:39 pm

If I remember my limited exposure to psycology correctly wasn't an Absoulte Terror Field a space created by emotionally disturbed children to ward of the harms of the world or somthing along those lines? Becasue if so it would really explain why Shinji, Asuka, Rei and Touji were able to become pilots, seeing as they didn't have the happyist childhood
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Postby Asuka Langley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:13 am

TheMessiah wrote:thanks, you should post your mommy dearest theory as well, might get some better responses

The day I post that, is the day I proclaim my belief in god. Or at least the day that I wish to be ridiculed.
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Postby TheMessiah » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:28 am

Asuka Langley wrote:
TheMessiah wrote:thanks, you should post your mommy dearest theory as well, might get some better responses

The day I post that, is the day I proclaim my belief in god. Or at least the day that I wish to be ridiculed.



maybe i should post it for ya ^_~
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Postby Asuka Langley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:31 am

If you wish to.
Maybe you can post our displacement analysis as well. haha
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Postby sadsadshinji » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:05 am

hmmm...you are saying that the AT field in reality is the behavior that emotionally disturbed children use to isolate themselves?

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Postby Asuka Langley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:14 am

No, not a self defense mechanism really.
If you've got a big ego, you've got a stronger AT Field.

That'd only be true if Shinji were an arrogant prat. He's got no real Ego issues, so this theory would only prove right for Asuka.
It's actually quite coincidental with her.

She's arrogant and confident in her piloting skills at first, she was able to produce an AT Field.
When she began to have self doubt about her being first rate, and when she was mind raped, she had no real confidence, or much of a swollen ego.
Therefore no AT Field.
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Postby Timesplitter 01 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:30 am

Asuka Langley wrote:No, not a self defense mechanism really.
If you've got a big ego, you've got a stronger AT Field.

That'd only be true if Shinji were an arrogant prat. He's got no real Ego issues, so this theory would only prove right for Asuka.
It's actually quite coincidental with her.

She's arrogant and confident in her piloting skills at first, she was able to produce an AT Field.
When she began to have self doubt about her being first rate, and when she was mind raped, she had no real confidence, or much of a swollen ego.
Therefore no AT Field.


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Postby Asuka Langley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:44 am

What's that supposed to mean? ;)

Anyhow, I'm wondering how you figure this theory might work with Ayanami.
She doesn't appear to have a huge ego. (Unless she hides it well...)
Or were you relating her AT Field to the fact that she was part of lilith?
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Postby Asuka Loves Toji » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:52 am

if you notice in the series there is few to none times that Rei produes an at feild around her eva, and could barely penetrate the 14th shito's the only time she really shows evidence of one is in ep 24
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Postby Timesplitter 01 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:00 am

Asuka Langley wrote:What's that supposed to mean? ;)

Anyhow, I'm wondering how you figure this theory might work with Ayanami.
She doesn't appear to have a huge ego. (Unless she hides it well...)
Or were you relating AT Field to the fact that she was part of lilith?


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Postby Asuka Langley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:03 am

Asuka Loves Toji wrote:if you notice in the series there is few to none times that Rei produes an at feild around her eva, and could barely penetrate the 14th shito's the only time she really shows evidence of one is in ep 24

That's what I meant tho.
Rei's mental state didnt really seem to be different at that point. She was the only one who was really consistant in her outward disposition.

According to this theory;
Would that mean she suddenly developed a huge ego and produced an AT Field, or that she was simply part of Lilith?

That's what I was trying to get at.
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Postby TheMessiah » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:04 am

well, Rei was merging with the Angel. so id say that she might have been able to tap into that. or muster up enough of herself to project an ego



something not so far from motherly love?
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Postby Asuka Loves Toji » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:05 am

ah i think it had to do with kaworu's line "were very much the same" or somthing like that and it got her thinking
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Postby Asuka Langley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:18 am

TheMessiah wrote:well, Rei was merging with the Angel. so id say that she might have been able to tap into that. or muster up enough of herself to project an ego



something not so far from motherly love?

Merging with?

And 'motherly love' would be something different than 'ego' would it not?

That was just a desire to protect Shinji.
Unless there would be more to your ego theory.
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